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Picture of the Day page 1

Andrew Boulton
March 10th, 2006, 02:23 PM
I'm having a tidy up, and getting some older, unseen pics online. The first one isn't Traveller, it's more Doctor Who and the Planet of the Tellytubbies...

http://www.traveller3d.com/gallery/tog.jpg
far-trader
March 10th, 2006, 02:27 PM
I don't know who I'm more frightened for, the Teletubbies or the Doctor graemlins/file_22.gif
Fritz_Brown
March 10th, 2006, 03:30 PM
I know which one I'm more frightened of. redface.gif
hirch duckfinder
March 10th, 2006, 07:07 PM
eh-oh ooo
far-trader
March 10th, 2006, 07:50 PM
<szhooom szhooom szhooom>

A new thing has appeared in the Telletubbie's world. It is blue. It has a pretty light on top. It makes a fun noise and appears from nowhere, like magic!

Another new thing opens the door of the blue thing and steps out. It is many colours, not one colour like the Telletubbies. It is tall. It makes funny noises too. Then it goes back inside the blue thing closes the door and the blue thing makes it's funny noise again and disappears like magic!

<szhooom szhooom szhooom>

"Again! Again!" shout the Telletubbies in unison.

<szhooom szhooom szhooom>

A new thing has appeared in the Telletubbie's world. It is blue. It has a pretty light on top. It makes a fun noise and appears from nowhere, like magic!

Another new thing opens the door of the blue thing and steps out. It is many colours, not one colour like the Telletubbies. It is tall. It makes funny noises too. Then it goes back inside the blue thing closes the door and the blue thing makes it's funny noise again and disappears like magic!

<szhooom szhooom szhooom>

"Again! Again!" shout the Telletubbies in unison.

...

Will the Doctor ever escape the clutches of the Telletubbies and their superior time control? Or will he be forever trapped in this endless recursive loop until they tire of him and his Tardis?

smile.gif
parmasson
March 10th, 2006, 08:41 PM
Tellytubbies are an advanced form of Cybermen.
Jeff M. Hopper
March 11th, 2006, 03:12 AM
Tom Baker never would have landed his TARDIS in such a horrible predicament...
Andrew Boulton
March 11th, 2006, 07:49 AM
God, what have I started...?

:)
kafka47
March 11th, 2006, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by Andrew Boulton:
God, what have I started...?:) Well, Andrew, I was looking at the Beep's Doctor Who website and Russell was talking about building the franchaise into integrative interlocking parts, so that the story arc can be told over several different programs eg. Torchlight & Doctor Who Jr.

So you are merely trying to a programme that will appeal to my 19mth son and me...who has been watching Doctor Who for about 19yrs...
far-trader
March 11th, 2006, 11:40 AM
Doctor Who... Junior... :confused:

Please, tell me they aren't serious, that is just stupid. I mean really really stupid. So stupid in fact that I can only imagine it is in all seriousness, serious. It sounds like something the American network big wigs in all their collective IQ point would come up with. I had no idea the British network had been infiltrated.

graemlins/file_28.gif
Andrew Boulton
March 11th, 2006, 12:38 PM
I'm hoping he means http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/news/cult/news/drwho/2006/03/02/30042.shtml
jfetters
March 11th, 2006, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by Andrew Boulton:
God, what have I started...?

:) Hey, I'd pay good money to watch the Daleks exterminate the Tinky-Winky, Po and the rest.

But only if they would go after the Boo-Bahs next.
hirch duckfinder
March 11th, 2006, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by Jim Fetters:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Andrew Boulton:
God, what have I started...?

:) Hey, I'd pay good money to watch the Daleks exterminate the Tinky-Winky, Po and the rest.

But only if they would go after the Boo-Bahs next. </font>[/QUOTE]then the doctor would have to adopt noo-noo. poor k9.
kafka47
March 11th, 2006, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by Andrew Boulton:
I'm hoping he means http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/news/cult/news/drwho/2006/03/02/30042.shtml Actually according to some rumours going around the 'net, this is actually a prelude to a separate programme which would be a more kiddy friendly Dr. Who...probably animated rather than live action. Afterall, there is a petition to get K9 & Company a regular time spot given the sucess of the Big Finish - Liz Sladen CDs...what better vehicle than the story of mechanical dog solving alien threats and a trusted adolescent under the wing of Auntie Sarah.
Andrew Boulton
March 11th, 2006, 02:05 PM
I think the K9 spinoff is more likely.
Pickles
March 12th, 2006, 02:52 AM
Originally posted by Jim Fetters:
Hey, I'd pay good money to watch the Daleks exterminate the Tinky-Winky, Po and the rest.

But only if they would go after the Boo-Bahs next. The Boo-Bahs would creep out even the Daleks. :eek: There'd be no contest.
Jeff M. Hopper
March 12th, 2006, 05:14 AM
Wait....

What if the Telletubbies are the original Kaled Mutants?

That would make them far more menacing...
Andrew Boulton
March 12th, 2006, 08:38 AM
EXTERMIN-EH-OH!
parmasson
March 12th, 2006, 12:45 PM
"Hey, I'd pay good money to watch the Daleks exterminate the Tinky-Winky, Po and the rest."
"The Boo-Bahs would creep out even the Daleks. [Eek!] There'd be no contest."

I agree, the Daleks would not stand a chance.
hirch duckfinder
March 13th, 2006, 08:39 AM
next pic of the day please maestro.
Andrew Boulton
March 13th, 2006, 02:09 PM
Originally posted by hirch duckfinder:
next pic of the day please maestro. Okey-dokey. Bit dull this time, just an updated version (using new models) of my copy of Ted Lindsey's Scout Approaching Planet picture.

http://www.traveller3d.com/gallery/scout-regina3.jpg

I've also added the cover of Stellar Reaches #3 to the gallery.

http://www.traveller3d.com/gallery/far_trader_over_regina.jpg
Fritz_Brown
March 13th, 2006, 04:40 PM
That sure is purty, Andrew. Makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.....
Oh wait, that's just my allergies acting up from the filter being clogged on this stupid Type-S - again! &lt;cough&gt; &lt;cough&gt; &lt;cough&gt; Much better.

That really is a nice picture, though.
hirch duckfinder
March 14th, 2006, 08:46 AM
very cool. thanks. looking forward to more trav porn soon.
Andrew Boulton
March 14th, 2006, 10:03 AM
I deny all rumours that Debbie Does Darrian will be my next Mini-Movie...
kafka47
March 14th, 2006, 10:41 AM
Aw, come on Andrew, you promised...

Really nice images, I hope that you have been approached by Hunter, ComStar and Marc as you are consistantly illustrating what we want to see. Absolutely brilliantly. Keep up the excellent work!
Scarecrow
March 14th, 2006, 11:35 AM
I love the blue lighting on the upper Starboard Surface.

Nice one.

Crow
Andrew Boulton
March 14th, 2006, 12:26 PM
The blue light does look nice - that's why I stole it from Ted's original!

http://tedlindsey.com/3d/scout_approaching_planet_2.jpg
hirch duckfinder
March 17th, 2006, 05:48 AM
any more andrew?
Andrew Boulton
March 17th, 2006, 02:17 PM
I don't know, some people are never satisfied...

Here's one from Dalton's Traveller Home Edition:

http://www.traveller3d.com/gallery/downport.jpg
Hemdian
March 18th, 2006, 03:07 AM
A minor upgrade of Celestia has come out so I had a little play. I managed to get quite a nice close-up of Dectura's rings (http://www.trisen.com/sol/images_10/dectura-scene-2.jpg) (Dectura is Yori/Regina's primary), and a sunset (http://www.trisen.com/sol/images_10/yori-scene-8.jpg) (as seen from near Yori's starport). Also a more conventional view of Dectura (http://www.trisen.com/sol/images_10/dectura-scene-1.jpg) and an orbital shot of Yori. (http://www.trisen.com/sol/images_10/yori-scene-7.jpg) Finally, a cockpit shot of a Ghalalk class cruiser. (http://www.trisen.com/sol/images_10/ghalalk-scene-3.jpg) None of these were modified or enhanced in any way, this is straight output from Celestia.

Regards PLST
hirch duckfinder
March 18th, 2006, 02:38 PM
OOOO. THATS A NICE ONE. LOOK AT THE RINGS ON THAT.
GBoyett
March 20th, 2006, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by Andrew Boulton:
I deny all rumours that Debbie Does Darrian will be my next Mini-Movie... I thought the next one was a period piece about the Interstellar Wars.

Debbie Does Dingir - The story of a humble, but cute, dilettant that helped Terra Confederation in convincing Imperial planets to switch sides.

:D :cool:
GBoyett
March 20th, 2006, 11:54 AM
Even worse scenario. The Daleks conquer Tubbieland. For some mysterious reason the Teletubbies were found useful for the Dalek Empire. Over a period of ten years, the Teletubbies have infiltrated the Dalek hierarchy, from the lowest worker to an advisor to the Emperor Dalek.

When the Movelans release thier anti-Dalek bioweapon, the Dalek Empire collapsed. The many slave races either died out or survived. A few went out to establish thier own empires.

One of the most successful races were the Teletubbies. They first stabilised the worlds that they were involved in administering. Later they started campaigns (so called "Let's be Friends and Live Together" Wars) to unite the Dalek Fragments and other worlds into the Tubbie Union.

Thier primary weapons were brain-rotting, Cuteness and gene-engineered Boo-Bah shock troopers.

The career of several teletubbies xeno-specialist Timelords careers were wrecked from this turn of events.
Andrew Boulton
March 20th, 2006, 02:09 PM
You've put a lot of thought into this. You're starting to scare me...
GBoyett
March 20th, 2006, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Andrew Boulton:
You've put a lot of thought into this. You're starting to scare me... graemlins/file_23.gif :D

Assimilation is definitely the most dangerous reaction to contact with the Teletubbies.

Teletubbies meet the Borg... :eek:
Teletubbies meet the Shadows... :eek: :eek:
Teletubbie Reavers... :eek: :eek: :eek:

The only group that would probaly do the right thing would be the Cylons.
Andrew Boulton
March 21st, 2006, 07:25 AM
I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
Baron Saarthuran
March 21st, 2006, 08:46 AM
I'm not going to do anymore work until we get the shares straightened out...
Andrew Boulton
March 21st, 2006, 12:00 PM
Right.
Andrew Boulton
March 22nd, 2006, 03:03 PM
I've been having a play around with the Solomani recruiting film idea...

http://www.traveller3d.com/end1s.avi

Note: you'll probably need v6 of the Divx codec.
parmasson
March 22nd, 2006, 05:07 PM
^Great Cleon's ghost. . . .
Baron Saarthuran
March 22nd, 2006, 05:42 PM
It may be scarier with a white or Green flag with the symbol Green on a white roundel... purity and all that stuff...
Baron Saarthuran
March 22nd, 2006, 05:43 PM
IS that the Federation Hull font?
Jeff M. Hopper
March 22nd, 2006, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by George Boyett:
Even worse scenario. The Daleks conquer Tubbieland. For some mysterious reason the Teletubbies were found useful for the Dalek Empire. Over a period of ten years, the Teletubbies have infiltrated the Dalek hierarchy, from the lowest worker to an advisor to the Emperor Dalek.

When the Movelans release thier anti-Dalek bioweapon, the Dalek Empire collapsed. The many slave races either died out or survived. A few went out to establish thier own empires.

One of the most successful races were the Teletubbies. They first stabilised the worlds that they were involved in administering. Later they started campaigns (so called "Let's be Friends and Live Together" Wars) to unite the Dalek Fragments and other worlds into the Tubbie Union.

Thier primary weapons were brain-rotting, Cuteness and gene-engineered Boo-Bah shock troopers.

The career of several teletubbies xeno-specialist Timelords careers were wrecked from this turn of events. After reading this, I now know fear.
Fritz_Brown
March 22nd, 2006, 09:41 PM
I agree with the Baron - needs a white flag with the green symbol. (BTW, is there sound?)
Andrew Boulton
March 23rd, 2006, 05:43 AM
Originally posted by Baron Saarthuran von Gushiddan:
IS that the Federation Hull font? Well spotted!

This was really just an experiment. I'll try a green flag (it needs to start flapping earlier, too), and add sound.
Gruffty
March 23rd, 2006, 06:01 AM
Where do I sign up??!!! :D

Will they take someone as fat and as bald as me?? :confused:

Didn't thinks so............ redface.gif :(
hirch duckfinder
March 23rd, 2006, 06:25 AM
Very cool. It needs some melodramtic music- maybe orchestral with lots of horns?
Andrew Boulton
March 23rd, 2006, 01:00 PM
http://www.traveller3d.com/solfilm2.avi

Enjoy :)
mike wightman
March 23rd, 2006, 01:27 PM
WOW

smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

Excellent work Andrew.
hirch duckfinder
March 23rd, 2006, 01:51 PM
Good job citizen!!!! smile.gif smile.gif
Fritz_Brown
March 23rd, 2006, 06:03 PM
Oh, very SWEET!! I love the choice of music! :cool: graemlins/omega.gif
Gruffty
March 24th, 2006, 05:25 AM
&lt;Stands with right hand on heart&gt;

*Sob*

Such brave, wonderful people &lt;sob&gt;. How I wish I could join them.......&lt;sobsniffle-parrrrrppppppp-pap&gt;

Mr Boulton works his magic once again..... :D
Gruffty
March 24th, 2006, 05:27 AM
:confused:
Hang on.
I can't join up.
I'm a Hiver.

Curse these tentacles!! :mad:

graemlins/file_28.gif
Andrew Boulton
March 24th, 2006, 06:06 AM
Originally posted by Fritz88:
Oh, very SWEET!! I love the choice of music! :cool: graemlins/omega.gif Thanks. It's the Solomani anthem IMTU.

Originally there was going to be a battle in the middle, but it's hard work and I'm lazy. I'll do a higher-res version when I get a chance.
Spud
March 24th, 2006, 07:57 AM
Rats. I can't get this link to work.
(http://www.traveller3d.com/end1s.avi)
As all my troubles with computers stem from operator error, what am I doing wrong?

Please help!
Andrew Boulton
March 24th, 2006, 09:03 AM
Ah, sorry, that's my fault: I deleted it when I uploaded the new version.
Jame
March 24th, 2006, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by Andrew Boulton:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Fritz88:
Oh, very SWEET!! I love the choice of music! :cool: graemlins/omega.gif Thanks. It's the Solomani anthem IMTU.
</font>[/QUOTE]Congratulations, I just borrowed it for MTU.
Andrew Boulton
March 24th, 2006, 11:00 AM
You can't beat a bit of the old Ludwig van.
hirch duckfinder
March 25th, 2006, 07:54 AM
it always reminds me of getting .....erm.....(one of the 7 wonders?) ... in civilisation. redface.gif
Andrew Boulton
March 25th, 2006, 09:58 AM
Don't mention Civ - once I get playing I get *nothing* useful done for days. It should be a class A drug...
hirch duckfinder
March 25th, 2006, 02:41 PM
Yeah when you did something in civ (one) you got a little animation and ode to joy, but I cant remember what it was you had to do?

I used to play on my 286 pc. Ahh..........(drifts off into nostalgia for a simpler time....no children.......spare time....compuer games....etc)
Andrew Boulton
March 29th, 2006, 01:24 PM
I've now added it to the Mini-Movies page.
Bob Weaver
March 29th, 2006, 04:50 PM
graemlins/file_21.gif

I just wandered into this thread, and it about made me spit my Pepsi all over my laptop I laughed so hard! My hands shake as I type this from the residual giggles.

Thanks!

Bob W.
Andrew Boulton
March 30th, 2006, 04:48 AM
I *think* that was a compliment...
hirch duckfinder
March 30th, 2006, 01:53 PM
any more pics before you go andrew??? tongue.gif
Andrew Boulton
March 30th, 2006, 01:57 PM
I'll try to get a couple up tomorrow.
Madarin Dude
March 30th, 2006, 11:37 PM
Here is something to tide you over if you are a renderosity memeber. http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=1188974
TheEngineer
March 30th, 2006, 11:56 PM
Baby LEXX !? smile.gif
Andrew Boulton
March 31st, 2006, 08:57 AM
http://www.traveller3d.com/gallery/spaceview.jpg
Andrew Boulton
March 31st, 2006, 09:05 AM
http://www.traveller3d.com/gallery/highport2.jpg

...and I think that's about it for a while.
Madarin Dude
March 31st, 2006, 10:09 AM
Andrew those are soem great shaders on that last one. Well I have a bit of humorous bent in me I guess here is another odd one I did. Sorry fo rjust a link I don't know how much traffic this place gets so rosity is always good. http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=1157602
Andrew Boulton
March 31st, 2006, 10:22 AM
There's something odd happening with the shadows - ones cast on the ground are too light. It's particularly bad under the ATV.
Anthony
March 31st, 2006, 01:34 PM
Hm. What bothers me about all these images is the fact that everything is in crisp focus, even when two objects are at different ranges (which would cause blurring of one object if using a real lens) or would be significantly blurred by atmosphere.
Andrew Boulton
March 31st, 2006, 01:49 PM
That's 'cos we're all too lazy to do proper DOF. Most people only bother if they're going for photo-realism or they're feeling arty.
Madarin Dude
April 1st, 2006, 01:04 AM
Bryce which is what I use (to render) tends to make DOF renders look terrible the effect takes a long time and in the end it looks worse. I could do something with object masks but even that is a poor solution. I am not a big fan of DOF in renders generally with my eyes I can see clearly soemthing 5 feet away and soemthing 100 meters away.

My biggest complaing is that I use too soemple a lighting model for the pic. I use a sort of light array now I use average around 30 lights to make it look like sunlight. that one uses one and abience and look where that gets you. (30 lights is still faster than usign Bryces soft shadows)
The sun is very low on the horizon so it makes the shadows streach a lot.

All the models in the render are my own I don't go download someone elses models.The tracks were built one link at a time. I made a master link and duplicated it around the roadwheels. All modeling is done in Wings3D an open source modeler.

If you guys are going to critisise at least find soemthing wrong with it. Give you a few examples. the ground in the forground is too even. The Dinosaur looks unbalanced. The shadows are too hard and crisp.
Andrew Boulton
April 1st, 2006, 05:12 AM
I like the ATV. You're right about the ground being too flat. The plants are nice, but they look very lonely...
Madarin Dude
April 1st, 2006, 08:12 AM
I since made some cati that would probably fit in nicley(prblem is that they are abotu 15K poly so not too many) . I thought the ATV would be a cool adventure vehicle sort of leave you on the planet for two weeks check out what is there as the GM make some nasty encounters and the like while they are waiting for pickup. The suspension is two stage one on teh wheel liek normal and there is a subframe that supports the cab and there is another set of shocks between the cab and the subframe. The tracks are driven with electric motors that are supplied with fusion power.(whatever you want really) But the subframe the mothers are actually all modeled in there.

Something I wish I could do effectivly is have a bit of motion blur around the road wheels and tracks there. The plants are Bryce parametric plants so they are really little effort on my part. Just set in tree type and tweak a bit. I do have a lot os sci fi I did but my modelign chops for a lto of them are nto up to snuff. Been gettign better. I have done more creatures and the like than anything else.

Don't you hate it when your shake and bake colony runs into trouble like this.
http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=1150391
Andrew Boulton
April 1st, 2006, 09:19 AM
I don't think it would be moving fast enough to need motion blur.
Madarin Dude
April 1st, 2006, 09:38 AM
I am talking about the rotating of the tracks and wheels. Doing the vehicle itself is actually an easy task. But getting the wheels each rotating around and the tracks is a trick it can be done with animation and just take a frame from it. Consierign this is a few tech levels above current and a M1 can go close to 50mph you could argue there is a need for some motion blur.

What version of C4D are you using now. Soemoen over at anther site was showing of the new hair plug in quite interesting. I am just using a 5 year old version of Bryce and Wings. Wings is actually pretty good overall and consider that it is open source meaning free that is just great. I perfer doing creatures to anything else.
Andrew Boulton
April 1st, 2006, 11:39 AM
"I am talking about the rotating of the tracks and wheels."

Even so, I wouldn't bother.

"What version of C4D are you using now."

9.5, the latest. It's my only vice. Sad, isn't it?

"Soemoen over at anther site was showing of the new hair plug in quite interesting."

Yeah, it looks pretty cool. Not something I've needed much, though.

"I am just using a 5 year old version of Bryce and Wings."

I'm not a fan of Bryce renders.

"Wings is actually pretty good overall and consider that it is open source meaning free that is just great."

Tried Blender? That seems to be the best free app.

"I perfer doing creatures to anything else."

How about doing a Hiver?
parmasson
April 1st, 2006, 12:18 PM
Hiver, Hiver!
Jame
April 1st, 2006, 06:29 PM
I'll challenge anyone who has experience rendering humans to do the crew of the Show-Off Witch. (http://www.travellerrpg.com/cgi-bin/Trav/CotI/Discuss/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=000063)
kafka47
April 5th, 2006, 03:03 PM
Did a search on Google Videos and found Doctor Who versus Furby...is there an evil (un)Intelligence working in the UK trying to undermine world civilization, as we don't know it call it. Time to call in UNIT-. The Uninformed National Inchworm Tape in Hibernation Queenbees.
Madarin Dude
April 5th, 2006, 08:04 PM
Blender has the most features it is not the best. Blender is poorly implemented and just a maze of menus. Wings is quick to the point modeler. There are a number guys on CG talk who have maya max and C4D all often use wings to do their modeling.
Bryce has soem power under the hood but lacks soem things really needed to make it better. No GI lighting and no radiosity rendering soft shadows are so slow hta tthey get passed by glaciers. The shader language is compleatly cryptic. So Bryce renders often have one of the presets shaders in it. I avoid them because I can recite the number of the shader when I see it. To use that program effectivly you really have to break into the shader language and use it and you have to find creative ways to light things. But I agree it was 100$ I spent back in 01. Here is an off topic pic but I use a light system I use to simulate sunlight it has 29 lights. http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=1193047

For a hiver if I have a good top and side view I think I can do one. I don't have anything good enough as a referance I would not want to make it with too few eyes etc.
fredofmars
April 6th, 2006, 01:34 AM
Alien Module 7 is all about Hivers, and has several pictures. If you haven't seen pictures, the easiest way to imagine them is like a starfish that has six limbs instead of five, with each limb having six fingers at the end (as it's hands), and one of the limbs having six eyes (on short stalks) in between and just outside of the fingers. It breathes through a hole in the top of it's body, and eats through a hole in the bottom. It's brain is in a skull-like feature deep in the middle of the body.

My wife says they look somewhat like (dog) puppies.
Scarecrow
April 6th, 2006, 04:25 AM
Depth of Field is an excellent addition to any render but it must be used very very subtley or the subject will look about 6 inches tall.

I tend to only blur out background, leaving fore and mid ground in focus. This can be done in Photoshop as easily and with more control than it can by using DOF at render time.

Good luck with the Hiver. I look forward to seeing that one.

Crow
Gruffty
April 6th, 2006, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by Kurega Gikur:
Hiver, Hiver! You rang? :D
Madarin Dude
April 8th, 2006, 02:03 AM
I have a vague idea but I will need mroe to go on than a description. A decent drawing does nto have to be really detailed but I woudl rather get it right.
Andrew Boulton
April 8th, 2006, 06:10 AM
If you haven't got the alien modules, have a look on http://www.travellerbibliography.org/ (they pop up often on TNE stuff).
Andrew Boulton
April 9th, 2006, 09:04 AM
One last pic before I go...

http://www.traveller3d.com/gallery/rsg.jpg

I think it needs a little more work, something doesn't quite feel right.
parmasson
April 9th, 2006, 05:22 PM
Here I am the art critic.

The only problem I can see it the station is a bit clean for being in the middle of the ocean in all that (presumably) salt water and oxygen atmosphere.

Perhaps a few more greebles and antennas?
A few people on the rails?

But then again I don’t have to do it so suggestions come easy. :D
Madarin Dude
April 23rd, 2006, 04:49 AM
I have been doing a few aircraft and did nto do sci fi for a shile. I decided to do soem sci fi again and did a Space to mud fighter the traveller equivilant of an A-10 or SU-25.
http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=1204275
Scarecrow
April 23rd, 2006, 06:29 AM
Nice. I like the shape and bulkiness to it. Especially love that loop over the tail.

It's a bit difficult to read against the dark, saturated backdrop, though. You could try lightening and greying out the scenery so that the fighters stand out more against it.

Crow
hirch duckfinder
April 23rd, 2006, 06:32 AM
Arrgghhh! it reminds me of being stuck in a lift with security bots homing in from both sides.

WHERE THE HELL IS MY LIFT IN THAT SUBMARINE!!!!

Lovely work andrew. I assume it is research station gamma?
Jeff M. Hopper
April 23rd, 2006, 07:29 AM
Contrails. If the scout is going fast enough to produce motion blur then there will be some (very light) water vapor trails forming along the leading edges of the shape.

Also the water looks, bland. All the ocean I remember sailing on had subtle different shades beneath the surface from schools of fish and clots of algae, especially when viewed from an angle. (Although I wonder if you would want to do that as it may distract from the structure.)
Madarin Dude
April 23rd, 2006, 09:14 AM
Thanks for all the critiques guys. (it is Daniel not Andrew) Scarecrow your suggestion would be easy enough to do. I wanted a down and dirty air to mud look so bulky is good.
Jeff well your suggestions while good are not so easy to accomplish with my current setup. Contrails could be done theoretically with a long series of spheres and volume materials the render times would be so long it would be not worth it. The clouds sent the render time to almost 3 hours adding an additional 20 or so spheres would, well you get the point. If I had soemthing with a decent particle system might work fine or I could add it in post which is a thought. The water is there because otherwise there would be too much green there and it breaks it up a bit. Since it is not the main focus of the pic I can live with it.
The Idea for this came after I did a frogfoot. (SU-25 very cool plane) I thought well what about traveller air to mud. So an appropriate name. Toad since unglamourus names are the rule it works for me.
Jeff M. Hopper
April 24th, 2006, 06:20 AM
This is going to sound stupid, but on Microsoft Paint there is a control for applying color like spraypaint (I use it on maps for foliage). It creates more of a flat mist then tiny spheres. That might work for contrails.

If its stupid, just ignore it.
parmasson
April 24th, 2006, 07:19 AM
Nice "feel" to the tech.
Very nice.
Madarin Dude
April 24th, 2006, 07:43 AM
Thanks for the comments guys. I am workign on gettign soem contrails and fadign the bacgroudn a bit. I am doing a 1/4 scale test render to see how it looks right now. I went with volume shaders and applied them to a cylinder. SO I will see in about an hour or so how it comes out then maybe go on if not I have some nice brushes in Painter that might do the trick.I wanted a more down and dirty look. and worked aircraft in the past(airforce and Boeing) and made a number of real world planes in my programs. (Bryce and Wings 3D)
hirch duckfinder
April 24th, 2006, 08:52 AM
mandarin dude wrote-

(it is Daniel not Andrew)

sorry daniel, i was looking at andrew's last pic he posted, hadn't even seen this page yet.

i'll have a look at yours too.
hirch duckfinder
April 24th, 2006, 09:00 AM
Wow!!! That's cool flyer!
Madarin Dude
April 25th, 2006, 10:17 AM
Thanks Hirch. I thought since I posted that link that was what you were talking about. Here is a link to a updated version I put on anotehr site followed Scarcrows idea of washing otu the background a bit. Also did a bit of a heat waves behind the lead plane. I did nto try to overdo it maybe too subtle. http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=66528&d=1145961951
Scarecrow
April 25th, 2006, 02:45 PM
More!

Grey out your backdrop by about twice that ammount. Try and find some aerial shots of coastline from that altitude. You'll see it's all very blue-grey and misty. Virtually no colour.

Next desaturate the colour in your textures on the craft by about 50-60 percent. At the moment they're waaay too rich and cartoony. They'll look almost grey in photoshop (or whatever you use) but they'll look much more realistic in the render.

EDIT

I just knocked this up in Photoshop so it's rough round the edges (literally) but it gives you the idea of what I'm talking about though.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c362/waynepeters/Warthogz.jpg

Crow
Madarin Dude
April 26th, 2006, 01:35 AM
I like what you did but I think it is a bit of a style thing too. Fading the backgroudn more woudl be good. (I did nto fade or desaturate the space to mud fighters at all) I tend to like saturated colors especially red to yellow tones.
Part of my thinking too comes from the WW1 German aircraft. Bright colors and customised by the pilot. I think I should do another paint scheme for it too. (as a side note I have never made a WW2 German aircraft but have made 4 WW1 if I make WW2 it is either Japan or USA)
far-trader
April 26th, 2006, 04:21 AM
Very sweet work Daniel, if only I shared the talent as well as the name smile.gif

I like the look you threw on it too Crow.

And I see no problem with bolder colors either.

Have you done the specs for this craft in any system yet? Or used an already designed craft? Or did I miss it somewhere?
Madarin Dude
April 26th, 2006, 07:19 AM
Well a lot of it is being comfortable with your package. (oops software package ooops) It took some time and a lof of crappy stuff before I got some models I liked but I stuck with it.
The difference between my render and Scarcrows is that I coudl not do his because I spent 4 hours doing the side art and I'll be dammed if I obscure that in any way:^) That is one of the problems with doing all the work you get to the point where you don't want to obscure any of it.
Madarin Dude
May 3rd, 2006, 10:49 PM
Soem new stuff I have been doing I have in mind the beginnign of he second imperium and Solomani vehicles at that time. http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=1209737
That is a troop transport Ihave my space to mud fighters there. Here is a starfighter. I like nose art I don' tlike the idea in the universe everything is grey so I put color in I am working on a villani 1st imerium fighter to fight with this guy. http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=1211774
Scarecrow
May 4th, 2006, 03:45 AM
I love that troop transport, especially the cockpit windows. Nice pics. Keep it up.

Crow
Madarin Dude
May 13th, 2006, 09:05 AM
Thanks a lot Scarecrow. What have you been up to? I have been spending the past week and a half on this one. Meant to be a big player character type of render. The ship is loosly based on the 400 ton fat trader we had on ewhen we were adventuring we had a numbber of legal and more nefaious things in our cargo hold nto to mention a brothel in the staterooms. Anyways this is a tribute to the players. http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=1218352
Andrew Boulton
May 15th, 2006, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by Madarin Dude:
I have been doing a few aircraft and did nto do sci fi for a shile. I decided to do soem sci fi again and did a Space to mud fighter the traveller equivilant of an A-10 or SU-25.
http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=1204275 Oh yeah, I like that!
Madarin Dude
May 21st, 2006, 07:22 PM
Thanks Andrew. Well I need to get my typo's down to a dull roar. Here is something fun I did. http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=1223669
A bit of traveller humor never hurt;^)
Scarecrow
May 22nd, 2006, 03:30 AM
I love that ship design!

Crow

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