MrMorden
August 15th, 2006, 11:02 AM
Throughout my (very) long Traveller career, I have been depressed by the lack of good Traveller miniatures. I know that Traveller is something of a niche game, but I'd *really* like to see some form of "official" Traveller miniatures.
Ideally, something like the D&D prepainted plastic minis would be great. It would not have to be anything as elaborate as the D&D line, of course...I'm thinking a set of 20 prepainted plastic figures, covering the main bases: serveral Human adventurers (hit the main T20 classes, like an Academic, a Merc, a Scout, etc), a couple of Vargr, a Droyne, etc. Things like an Imperial customs official, a starport cop, a noble, a techie/engineer, an Imperial Marine in battle dress, etc. If you add in a few of vehicles like an air/raft, groundcar, and speeder, it gets even better.
I'd easily pay $50 for a set of twenty minis like that, and I bet many others would as well. Or you could randomize them like Wizards of the Coast does.
If it works out and does well, you could release additional sets and get more into the fringes of the Traveller universe with prestige classes, unusual races, etc.
Am I just pissing in the wind here? Does anybody think there is ever a chance of something like this happening? How can Traveller have been around for SO long and have such poor merchandising?
Ideally, something like the D&D prepainted plastic minis would be great. It would not have to be anything as elaborate as the D&D line, of course...I'm thinking a set of 20 prepainted plastic figures, covering the main bases: serveral Human adventurers (hit the main T20 classes, like an Academic, a Merc, a Scout, etc), a couple of Vargr, a Droyne, etc. Things like an Imperial customs official, a starport cop, a noble, a techie/engineer, an Imperial Marine in battle dress, etc. If you add in a few of vehicles like an air/raft, groundcar, and speeder, it gets even better.
I'd easily pay $50 for a set of twenty minis like that, and I bet many others would as well. Or you could randomize them like Wizards of the Coast does.
If it works out and does well, you could release additional sets and get more into the fringes of the Traveller universe with prestige classes, unusual races, etc.
Am I just pissing in the wind here? Does anybody think there is ever a chance of something like this happening? How can Traveller have been around for SO long and have such poor merchandising?
princelian
August 15th, 2006, 11:44 AM
There are some very old lead Traveller minatures out there. I think it was a Citadel line. And there's also some Space Opera ones...
Checking eBay....yep, there's a group of Aliens and Adventurers (Traveller Set 1) and one of Traveller Set 2 (The Military)...currently up.
I'd look for someone selling their old gaming stuff...
Checking eBay....yep, there's a group of Aliens and Adventurers (Traveller Set 1) and one of Traveller Set 2 (The Military)...currently up.
I'd look for someone selling their old gaming stuff...
Black Globe Generator
August 15th, 2006, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by princelian:
There are some very old lead Traveller minatures out there. I think it was a Citadel line.There was indeed a Citadel line, and a very cool one at that. I don't have any of the minis, but I do have an old magazine that shows illustrations of them - I still flip to them from time-to-time for some "visual inspiration."
There are some very old lead Traveller minatures out there. I think it was a Citadel line.There was indeed a Citadel line, and a very cool one at that. I don't have any of the minis, but I do have an old magazine that shows illustrations of them - I still flip to them from time-to-time for some "visual inspiration."
jfetters
August 15th, 2006, 11:50 AM
MrMorden, are you looking more for character figures or ship miniatures?
MegaMinis has some new figures, like the Beowulf, the Scout, the Pinnance and some Droyne. But I completely agree there is no marketing mainly, IMO because GDW folded.
Granted, there are other people carrying the flame, but that doesn't necessarily translate into miniature companies wanting to spend the time and money to make these things.
MegaMinis has some new figures, like the Beowulf, the Scout, the Pinnance and some Droyne. But I completely agree there is no marketing mainly, IMO because GDW folded.
Granted, there are other people carrying the flame, but that doesn't necessarily translate into miniature companies wanting to spend the time and money to make these things.
Scarecrow
August 15th, 2006, 03:32 PM
Or there are my paper minis.
See below...
Crow
See below...
Crow
Plankowner
August 15th, 2006, 04:40 PM
I think I have a box of those buried somewhere in a box at home. I will look for them tonight and see what I have.
I will never use them again, maybe we can work something out (if I have them). More tomorrow.
I will never use them again, maybe we can work something out (if I have them). More tomorrow.
aramis
August 16th, 2006, 02:05 AM
Ideally, I'd like to see 3-4 bodies/legs, 3-4 arm sets, and 3-4 heads for each of the following, preferably in plastic or resin rather than metal (easier to assemble and modify)
Human(Imperial), Zhodani, Vargr, Aslan, Newt, Virush: Male, Female, VaccSuit, CbtArmor, BDress for each
Hiver, Hiver Vaccsuit
K'Kree Male, Female, Male Warrior, Male Noble
Droyne: each caste, plus Vacc Suit, BDress.
One other nicety about plastic/resin: less weight, less mail postage!
Human(Imperial), Zhodani, Vargr, Aslan, Newt, Virush: Male, Female, VaccSuit, CbtArmor, BDress for each
Hiver, Hiver Vaccsuit
K'Kree Male, Female, Male Warrior, Male Noble
Droyne: each caste, plus Vacc Suit, BDress.
One other nicety about plastic/resin: less weight, less mail postage!
MrMorden
August 16th, 2006, 10:00 AM
I have many of the Citadel minis, lovingly painted many years ago. And those are great, but I'm really looking for something like the renaissance we have had in D&D minis recently. The advent of inexpensive, prepainted plastic miniatures has been a real boon.
The plastic ones are lighter, easier to store (they don't bend or chip when you throw them all in a box together), and just generally more convenient.
I am aware of all the past options for Traveller minis, and have or have tried most of them...what I'm looking for is something that will bring Traveller miniature gaming in line with more modern miniature lines. Is there any hope?
The plastic ones are lighter, easier to store (they don't bend or chip when you throw them all in a box together), and just generally more convenient.
I am aware of all the past options for Traveller minis, and have or have tried most of them...what I'm looking for is something that will bring Traveller miniature gaming in line with more modern miniature lines. Is there any hope?
bryan gibson
August 16th, 2006, 10:14 AM
well, IMO, probably not - Travellr has always been a dwindling market of very loyal fans, but given the startup cost of pewters ( several thpousands of dollars as a rule for properly done in a volume worth the effort) and MUCH more expensive for plastics, I wouldn't hold your breath.
Pessimistic it may be, but its also cold market reality.
On the other hand, there are all sorts of minis out there that fill the bill nicely, if you look around - stargrunt, some grendel stuff, and various others - all in varying degrees of fineness.
Thats where I'd look, my self.
Pessimistic it may be, but its also cold market reality.
On the other hand, there are all sorts of minis out there that fill the bill nicely, if you look around - stargrunt, some grendel stuff, and various others - all in varying degrees of fineness.
Thats where I'd look, my self.
robject
August 16th, 2006, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by bryan gibson:
Traveller has always been a dwindling market of very loyal fansThat's a... diplomatic way of putting it.
Traveller has always been a dwindling market of very loyal fansThat's a... diplomatic way of putting it.
Burocrate
August 16th, 2006, 01:40 PM
While I would like someone else to invest the money to get the rights, develop and manufacture a line of Traveller figures (yes, I have bought the latest offerings from Mega Miniatures) I really do not see this niche “taking the market by storm�. To the people at Mega Miniatures: I am ready for you next Traveller offering, and the next one and the next one…
The plastic Star Wars figures are quite nice for someone starting to put together a collection of sci-fi or even Traveller-specific characters. EBay has them individually available, but you then have to deal with PayPal and shipping costs. If you are fortunate enough to have a gaming and/or comic book store in your area, you may find these figures for sale individually as well. But they just do not have that Traveller look and feel.
Scarecrow's paper figures are excellent, words alone can not describe them. Go to his site and see for yourself...right now!
I search EBay about once a month or so and see Traveller figures go for reasonable to outrageous prices. Currently, a set of four Grenadier Adventures and a set of three Droyne (both unpainted) were ignored at about $10.00 US (each set)and were re-posted for bidding.
Look around, set aside some money and you can create a really decent collection.
The plastic Star Wars figures are quite nice for someone starting to put together a collection of sci-fi or even Traveller-specific characters. EBay has them individually available, but you then have to deal with PayPal and shipping costs. If you are fortunate enough to have a gaming and/or comic book store in your area, you may find these figures for sale individually as well. But they just do not have that Traveller look and feel.
Scarecrow's paper figures are excellent, words alone can not describe them. Go to his site and see for yourself...right now!
I search EBay about once a month or so and see Traveller figures go for reasonable to outrageous prices. Currently, a set of four Grenadier Adventures and a set of three Droyne (both unpainted) were ignored at about $10.00 US (each set)and were re-posted for bidding.
Look around, set aside some money and you can create a really decent collection.
Plankowner
August 16th, 2006, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by Plankowner:
I think I have a box of those buried somewhere in a box at home. I will look for them tonight and see what I have.
I will never use them again, maybe we can work something out (if I have them). More tomorrow. Wow, quoting myself! Do I get double post credit for this? graemlins/file_21.gif
Well, I didn't find the box of mini's last night, but I know I have them. I will keep digging and advise here what I have.
I am willing to sell/trade any/all of them.
I think I have a box of those buried somewhere in a box at home. I will look for them tonight and see what I have.
I will never use them again, maybe we can work something out (if I have them). More tomorrow. Wow, quoting myself! Do I get double post credit for this? graemlins/file_21.gif
Well, I didn't find the box of mini's last night, but I know I have them. I will keep digging and advise here what I have.
I am willing to sell/trade any/all of them.
Jame
August 16th, 2006, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by Plankowner:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Plankowner:
I think I have a box of those buried somewhere in a box at home. I will look for them tonight and see what I have.
I will never use them again, maybe we can work something out (if I have them). More tomorrow. Wow, quoting myself! Do I get double post credit for this? graemlins/file_21.gif
Well, I didn't find the box of mini's last night, but I know I have them. I will keep digging and advise here what I have.
I am willing to sell/trade any/all of them. </font>[/QUOTE]I'd be interested, but it depends on (a.) how much and (b.) if they're painted. Plus what they are. When you find 'em PM me.
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Plankowner:
I think I have a box of those buried somewhere in a box at home. I will look for them tonight and see what I have.
I will never use them again, maybe we can work something out (if I have them). More tomorrow. Wow, quoting myself! Do I get double post credit for this? graemlins/file_21.gif
Well, I didn't find the box of mini's last night, but I know I have them. I will keep digging and advise here what I have.
I am willing to sell/trade any/all of them. </font>[/QUOTE]I'd be interested, but it depends on (a.) how much and (b.) if they're painted. Plus what they are. When you find 'em PM me.
marvo
August 16th, 2006, 07:07 PM
There is an important fact that nobody has pointed out. i.e. Scale. Traveller is the only game I know of where specific miniatures were made in different scales. The boxed sets from Citadel are 15mm scale and contain 20 figures per box. These were later re-released in blister packs. I have also found some other 15mm miniatures that look like they were made for traveller. Someone also made some excellent 25mm scale figures at one time. Question is, which do you want?
15mm is great if you want to use deckplans without taking up several tables of space, but 25mm is much nicer for almost everything else.
As Burocrate pointed out, many of the Star Wars Miniatures are pretty good for use with Traveller. See this link for some photographs:
Star Wars Miniatures (http://www.coolstuffinc.com/main_miniatures.php?viewType=Star%20Wars&info1=Miniatures&info2=Star%20Wars&info3=Rebel%20Storm)
A bit of repainting can also go a long way. I painted a group of Star Wars stormtroopers green and brown and use them as marines in heavy armour. There is also some kind of open top flyer that, after cutting the wings off, makes a great air raft. smile.gif The nice thing about these is that they are readily available as singles from most games stores.
15mm is great if you want to use deckplans without taking up several tables of space, but 25mm is much nicer for almost everything else.
As Burocrate pointed out, many of the Star Wars Miniatures are pretty good for use with Traveller. See this link for some photographs:
Star Wars Miniatures (http://www.coolstuffinc.com/main_miniatures.php?viewType=Star%20Wars&info1=Miniatures&info2=Star%20Wars&info3=Rebel%20Storm)
A bit of repainting can also go a long way. I painted a group of Star Wars stormtroopers green and brown and use them as marines in heavy armour. There is also some kind of open top flyer that, after cutting the wings off, makes a great air raft. smile.gif The nice thing about these is that they are readily available as singles from most games stores.
MrMorden
August 17th, 2006, 04:50 PM
As to scale, I think 25/28mm is the way to go for any future sets. The 15mm thing was great for Striker or any other large scale tactical game, but the larger detail of the 25/28mm stuff is better for RPGing, I think.
Other opinions can and do exist, of course.
Other opinions can and do exist, of course.
Black Globe Generator
August 17th, 2006, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by MrMorden:
Other opinions can and do exist, of course. I like 15mm for anything involving modern (or future) firearms - 25/28mm is fine if you're dealing primarily with swords and bows, but modern/future firearms open up the range of engagements considerably, requiring bigger battlefields. The 15mm minis work better on larger grids with smaller squares in my humble experience.
Other opinions can and do exist, of course. I like 15mm for anything involving modern (or future) firearms - 25/28mm is fine if you're dealing primarily with swords and bows, but modern/future firearms open up the range of engagements considerably, requiring bigger battlefields. The 15mm minis work better on larger grids with smaller squares in my humble experience.
aramis
August 17th, 2006, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by MrMorden:
As to scale, I think 25/28mm is the way to go for any future sets. The 15mm thing was great for Striker or any other large scale tactical game, but the larger detail of the 25/28mm stuff is better for RPGing, I think.
Other opinions can and do exist, of course. Personally, I can't stand the current crop of 28/30mm figures. Too big. Focus on details. Highly stylized. Blech!
I use 15mm whenever possible. Not just space on the table, but also less detail expected (Painting details is rough for me; neuromotor disorder), easier to pack and tote, and cheaper to get. Also, the micromachines figures were about 15mm...
Heck, 10mm is readily available for sci-fi vehicles...
As to scale, I think 25/28mm is the way to go for any future sets. The 15mm thing was great for Striker or any other large scale tactical game, but the larger detail of the 25/28mm stuff is better for RPGing, I think.
Other opinions can and do exist, of course. Personally, I can't stand the current crop of 28/30mm figures. Too big. Focus on details. Highly stylized. Blech!
I use 15mm whenever possible. Not just space on the table, but also less detail expected (Painting details is rough for me; neuromotor disorder), easier to pack and tote, and cheaper to get. Also, the micromachines figures were about 15mm...
Heck, 10mm is readily available for sci-fi vehicles...
Hemdian
August 17th, 2006, 08:15 PM
I have a question about miniatures scales. CT and MT used a square grid where 0.5 inches represented 1.5 meters ... this was called "15mm scale". Later (TNE ?), this was replaced with a square grid where 1 inch represented 2 meters ... this was calledc "25mm scale". If you had a square grid where 1 inch represented 1.5 meters ... what would this be called? "30mm scale"? And are generic miniatures and accessories made for this scale?
Regards PLST
Regards PLST
marvo
August 17th, 2006, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by Hemdian:
I have a question about miniatures scales. CT and MT used a square grid where 0.5 inches represented 1.5 meters ... this was called "15mm scale". Later (TNE ?), this was replaced with a square grid where 1 inch represented 2 meters ... this was calledc "25mm scale". If you had a square grid where 1 inch represented 1.5 meters ... what would this be called? "30mm scale"? And are generic miniatures and accessories made for this scale?
Regards PLST You bring up a good point. First off, it's beside the point I know, but I find the whole mixture of units in 1 inch = 1.5 meters pretty weird anyhow. :confused:
To answer your question, using the same logic 1 inch = 1.5 meters would be about 38mm scale.
I sometimes use 15mm miniatures (shipboard actions) but usually use 25mm miniatures. I use either 0.5" = 1.5m or 1" = 1.5m. Basically I try and use whatever fits. For outside actions I use a hex battlmat with 15mm hexes. That's about 0.75 inches so I cheat and use it for both scales. :D
Let's not mention the GURPS Traveller ship plans with 1" = 1m, that doesn't fit any miniatures and requires half my floor for a Scout Ship. graemlins/file_21.gif
I have a question about miniatures scales. CT and MT used a square grid where 0.5 inches represented 1.5 meters ... this was called "15mm scale". Later (TNE ?), this was replaced with a square grid where 1 inch represented 2 meters ... this was calledc "25mm scale". If you had a square grid where 1 inch represented 1.5 meters ... what would this be called? "30mm scale"? And are generic miniatures and accessories made for this scale?
Regards PLST You bring up a good point. First off, it's beside the point I know, but I find the whole mixture of units in 1 inch = 1.5 meters pretty weird anyhow. :confused:
To answer your question, using the same logic 1 inch = 1.5 meters would be about 38mm scale.
I sometimes use 15mm miniatures (shipboard actions) but usually use 25mm miniatures. I use either 0.5" = 1.5m or 1" = 1.5m. Basically I try and use whatever fits. For outside actions I use a hex battlmat with 15mm hexes. That's about 0.75 inches so I cheat and use it for both scales. :D
Let's not mention the GURPS Traveller ship plans with 1" = 1m, that doesn't fit any miniatures and requires half my floor for a Scout Ship. graemlins/file_21.gif
aramis
August 17th, 2006, 10:23 PM
Scale in minis is either mm from deck of base to eyes or deck of base to top of head, depending upon manufacture and time frame. Men are assumed to be 5'10" tall for scaling purposes. 25mm, btw, are 1/70th scale...
ground scale is USUALLY different from figure scale.
For example, 25mm=70" (1:71), 28mm=70" (1:63.5) and 30mm=70" (1:59.3) all routinely use 1"=60" (1:60) or 1"=120" (1"=10', 1:120) for ground scale in RPG's. (Thank-you D&D. 5' or 10' squares)
15mm is roughly 1:120th (right about 1:118, by my calcs, really). At 15mm, ground scale is just about the same as figure scale for traveller's "Large Deck Plans" (Snapshot, AHL, and the FASA Plans) at 12.52mm=1.5m. (1:119.8)
Oh, and 0.5"=5' is 1:120, and just perfect for 15mm....
Model railroad stuff is usually matched figure and ground scale.
In case you want to use it, here are the ratios:
1:48 O scale
1:64 S scale
1:87.1 HO scale
1:120 TT scale
1:160 N scale
1:220 Z scale
TT is 15mm... but is not in use by terribly many manufacturers.
N-Scale is darned close to 10mm (1:177)... close enough for use.
ground scale is USUALLY different from figure scale.
For example, 25mm=70" (1:71), 28mm=70" (1:63.5) and 30mm=70" (1:59.3) all routinely use 1"=60" (1:60) or 1"=120" (1"=10', 1:120) for ground scale in RPG's. (Thank-you D&D. 5' or 10' squares)
15mm is roughly 1:120th (right about 1:118, by my calcs, really). At 15mm, ground scale is just about the same as figure scale for traveller's "Large Deck Plans" (Snapshot, AHL, and the FASA Plans) at 12.52mm=1.5m. (1:119.8)
Oh, and 0.5"=5' is 1:120, and just perfect for 15mm....
Model railroad stuff is usually matched figure and ground scale.
In case you want to use it, here are the ratios:
1:48 O scale
1:64 S scale
1:87.1 HO scale
1:120 TT scale
1:160 N scale
1:220 Z scale
TT is 15mm... but is not in use by terribly many manufacturers.
N-Scale is darned close to 10mm (1:177)... close enough for use.
Andrew Boulton
August 18th, 2006, 07:52 AM
I always thought 6ft was the assumed height.
I never liked 15mm - too hard to paint, and not enough figures available. IMHO 25mm is the best all-round scale.
I never liked 15mm - too hard to paint, and not enough figures available. IMHO 25mm is the best all-round scale.
aramis
August 20th, 2006, 07:04 PM
Given my druthers, I'd do 10mm or 15.
Specifically because they won't have the details, they are cheaper to ship, to make, and to base.
Of course, the last minis I purchased at all were 7mm (Warmaster)
Andrew: the US standard is for US Civil War and Napoleonics minis (the first mass produced ones for gaming in the US), and the average soldier was around 5'8" or so. US male average height is 5'8" to 5'10". Mini soldiers are supposed to be average height. 6' was fairly rare in the US Civil War (I've seen entire regiments with no man 6' or taller.
there is a lot of slop room, given that average male height varies by timeframe, ethnicity, and region. (Caucasian males in Alaska tend to be 1.5-2" taller than the US Average for caucasian men.)
I've seen 5'8", 5'9", and 5'10" cited as average man-heights on various manufacturers pages.
And, at 5'10", it makes 15mm on 1"=3m 1:1 ground:figure scale.
Specifically because they won't have the details, they are cheaper to ship, to make, and to base.
Of course, the last minis I purchased at all were 7mm (Warmaster)
Andrew: the US standard is for US Civil War and Napoleonics minis (the first mass produced ones for gaming in the US), and the average soldier was around 5'8" or so. US male average height is 5'8" to 5'10". Mini soldiers are supposed to be average height. 6' was fairly rare in the US Civil War (I've seen entire regiments with no man 6' or taller.
there is a lot of slop room, given that average male height varies by timeframe, ethnicity, and region. (Caucasian males in Alaska tend to be 1.5-2" taller than the US Average for caucasian men.)
I've seen 5'8", 5'9", and 5'10" cited as average man-heights on various manufacturers pages.
And, at 5'10", it makes 15mm on 1"=3m 1:1 ground:figure scale.
siefertma2
August 20th, 2006, 07:45 PM
For me, my desire for Traveller miniatures, of just about any scale, comes not just from my desire to use them in Traveller-based games, but from a burning need for a line of quality "generic" science fiction miniatures. The trouble is science fiction role playing, believe it or not, are amoug the least popular gaming genres and those who do sci-fi game tend to only want to play in liscensed settings (e.g. Star Wars, Star Trek, Babylon 5, SG-1, etc.). The reason you see so many fantasy figures is that elves, dragons, and trolls are pretty much public domain and more gamers want to muck around with swords and soccery than laser pistols and science. ("Science is too hard!")
Still, it would be nice for gamers to think of something other than "Warhammer 40K" (BLEECH!) when someone mentions Sci-Fi minis.
Still, it would be nice for gamers to think of something other than "Warhammer 40K" (BLEECH!) when someone mentions Sci-Fi minis.
marvo
August 21st, 2006, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by Mark A. Siefert:
For me, my desire for Traveller miniatures, of just about any scale, comes not just from my desire to use them in Traveller-based games, but from a burning need for a line of quality "generic" science fiction miniatures.
I know how you feel. I have been a Champions player for about 15 year and until HeroClix came along superheroic miniatures were very scarce. Some of the 'generic grunt' heroclix minis can be used for Traveller. Cut them off the bases, stick on regular bases and repaint a bit if necessary.
For me, my desire for Traveller miniatures, of just about any scale, comes not just from my desire to use them in Traveller-based games, but from a burning need for a line of quality "generic" science fiction miniatures.
I know how you feel. I have been a Champions player for about 15 year and until HeroClix came along superheroic miniatures were very scarce. Some of the 'generic grunt' heroclix minis can be used for Traveller. Cut them off the bases, stick on regular bases and repaint a bit if necessary.
Plankowner
August 22nd, 2006, 10:10 AM
Not wanting to hijack this thread any more than I already have, I will post a listing of the 15mm miniatures that I have over in the Duty Free Shop area.
GypsyComet
August 27th, 2006, 03:13 AM
The Megaminis releases include several ships and a pack of Droyne. BIG Droyne.
The Traveller Universe really supports three scales of conflict: RPG, Army actions, and Navy actions. RPGs seem to work best in 25-28mm, though 15mm also works, particularly for actions aboard ships. Army actions (as seen in Striker) really top out at 15mm, but could readily be done in 10mm or 6mm. Navy actions (spaceships) vary from "dueling lifeboats" up to the Happy Fun Ball (Tigress) and bigger.
Going backwards, I'm not really worried about ships, as the number of starship miniatures lines in production is, frankly, staggering.
Back to RPG scale, I can also scare up sufficiently generic SF types in 25-28mm to make my games work. I'd dearly LOVE to have a few more distinctly OTU minis in this scale range, but I can make do.
For military stuff, the prospects are rather bleak. Despite a surprisingly large body of 15mm SF out there, the potential of the scale is still barely being touched, Traveller or otherwise. There is also a fair bit of 6mm, and even 2mm, SF out there, but little of it is really applicable to Traveller.
The Traveller Universe really supports three scales of conflict: RPG, Army actions, and Navy actions. RPGs seem to work best in 25-28mm, though 15mm also works, particularly for actions aboard ships. Army actions (as seen in Striker) really top out at 15mm, but could readily be done in 10mm or 6mm. Navy actions (spaceships) vary from "dueling lifeboats" up to the Happy Fun Ball (Tigress) and bigger.
Going backwards, I'm not really worried about ships, as the number of starship miniatures lines in production is, frankly, staggering.
Back to RPG scale, I can also scare up sufficiently generic SF types in 25-28mm to make my games work. I'd dearly LOVE to have a few more distinctly OTU minis in this scale range, but I can make do.
For military stuff, the prospects are rather bleak. Despite a surprisingly large body of 15mm SF out there, the potential of the scale is still barely being touched, Traveller or otherwise. There is also a fair bit of 6mm, and even 2mm, SF out there, but little of it is really applicable to Traveller.
Baphomet69
March 25th, 2007, 08:11 PM
I've found that Ground Zero Games (http://www.gzg.com) makes some decent generic sci-fi figures you can use with Traveller (many of them have the old Traveller look/feel to them - IMHO, of course). They also have 25mm and 15mm terrain, vehicles and buildings in resin. Not to mention they have entire fleets of ships; they seem to be about the same scale as the new Traveller ships coming out from AdAstra, and GZG are the ones that made Full Thrust (as well as Dirtside II and StarGrunt) in the first place.
Also, for ships interiors, HirstArts - a.k.a. CastleMolds (http://www.hirstarts.com) makes a line of molds for sci-fi ships interiors in 25-28mm scale. True, you have to cast the bricks yourself in plaster, but it's not too hard, it's fun and his designs are great.
Just my 2 credits on the subject, though I too am DYING for a line of real, official Traveller miniatures. I'd love to see some company like Reaper get the license to produce these. If I ever hit the lottery, I think I'll buy the license and hire Reaper to produce a line of Traveller figures for us ;) ...
Also, for ships interiors, HirstArts - a.k.a. CastleMolds (http://www.hirstarts.com) makes a line of molds for sci-fi ships interiors in 25-28mm scale. True, you have to cast the bricks yourself in plaster, but it's not too hard, it's fun and his designs are great.
Just my 2 credits on the subject, though I too am DYING for a line of real, official Traveller miniatures. I'd love to see some company like Reaper get the license to produce these. If I ever hit the lottery, I think I'll buy the license and hire Reaper to produce a line of Traveller figures for us ;) ...
Border Reiver
July 12th, 2007, 05:15 AM
Just been to Ground Zero Games and discovered their UNSC Marine minis. They ARE Imperial Marines.
And there are loads of other cool minis too. All very Traveller or 2300.
And there are loads of other cool minis too. All very Traveller or 2300.
moxiefu
July 12th, 2007, 06:21 AM
If you want to work with 28mm the Star Wars collectible minis are quite good. Many of the humans have a generic SF look to be usable for Traveller.
Even some of the aliens can pass for Traveller, such as using the Shistavanen Pirate and Defel Spy for Vargr. There are some Geonosans that make a passable Droyne. There is a D&D mini called a Catfolk that makes a good female Aslan.
If you don't want to go through eBay you can order the singles from Popularcollections.com or other companies that sell singles.
I also have taken Heroclix minis and cut down the base. They make great mooks and civilians.
Even some of the aliens can pass for Traveller, such as using the Shistavanen Pirate and Defel Spy for Vargr. There are some Geonosans that make a passable Droyne. There is a D&D mini called a Catfolk that makes a good female Aslan.
If you don't want to go through eBay you can order the singles from Popularcollections.com or other companies that sell singles.
I also have taken Heroclix minis and cut down the base. They make great mooks and civilians.
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