Loki
February 5th, 2003, 10:22 PM
Any comments or thoughts about Microsoft's upcoming Freelancer? Eve: The Second Generation? :confused:
Skylinkdave
February 6th, 2003, 03:56 AM
Looks like it'll be fun. Seems like it'll have a strong Traveller flavor, but you can't really tell from the weak official game site:
Freelancer web site (http://www.microsoft.com/games/freelancer/default.asp)
Good thing I'm upgrading my computer soon... :eek:
Dave
Freelancer web site (http://www.microsoft.com/games/freelancer/default.asp)
Good thing I'm upgrading my computer soon... :eek:
Dave
womble
February 6th, 2003, 11:43 AM
So, is this a MMPORPG? [puzzled]
Loki
February 6th, 2003, 02:19 PM
Taken from the web site: Play missions randomly or follow the storyline. The universe is open for exploration, and the game evolves based on the decisions you make. Or, join with friends and conquer the universe together. Play cooperatively or competitively on player-hosted server worlds. :D
orion_blastar
February 9th, 2003, 01:44 PM
There is a FarScape game coming out, I always thought that the FarScape show was a bit like Traveller. Starburst instead of a jump drive. The Peacekeepers being like the Imperium, being like the human beings but not exactly like them. http://www.farscapegame.com/
For more info on FarScape:
http://www.farscape.com/
http://www.scifi.com/farscape/
John Crichton is a lot like my characters, wisecracking space explorer trying to learn how to be a warrior and using his head instead of his gun when he can. One of the other players I play the game with is like D'Argo, the warrior type, needs John to get out of trouble sometimes.
Anyway they don't act as one unit, but as individuals who help each other, which is like a bunch of our Traveller games.
For more info on FarScape:
http://www.farscape.com/
http://www.scifi.com/farscape/
John Crichton is a lot like my characters, wisecracking space explorer trying to learn how to be a warrior and using his head instead of his gun when he can. One of the other players I play the game with is like D'Argo, the warrior type, needs John to get out of trouble sometimes.
Anyway they don't act as one unit, but as individuals who help each other, which is like a bunch of our Traveller games.
Loki
February 9th, 2003, 07:39 PM
Orion_Blaster - Yes the game is out now but it was seriously panned by the reviewers. Not sure what all the negatives were but it is available if you are interested.
The interplay between the actors was what really kept your interest in the TV series and I can see where it would make some interesting material for a Traveller game.
The interplay between the actors was what really kept your interest in the TV series and I can see where it would make some interesting material for a Traveller game.
bromdenlong
March 8th, 2003, 07:08 AM
I remember seeing two Traveller computer games for sale in late 1992 or early 1993. Anybody know anything about them? Wish I'd picked them up. (Come to think of it, I think they were MegaTraveller.)
Also, anyone know if the Trader software program is available anywhere?
Also, anyone know if the Trader software program is available anywhere?
vutpakdi
March 8th, 2003, 08:38 AM
My favorite Traveller like game is Escape Velocity Nova.
In the game, you start out with a little ship (a shuttle craft in the game) and travel between different systems to buy/sell speculative cargos as well as run missions to make money. With money, you can buy bigger ships and equipment (defensive, offensive, maneuver related) for your ship. There are different factions including staid corporate types and plundering pirates.
The main view is a top-down/isometric view of the ships in space. There is very little downside/portside action (really conducted in a dialog).
Current downside is that the game is Mac only, but there is a Windows version coming out soon (the Windows version is currently in beta).
Escape Velocity (the original) and Escape Velocity Nova are both great games. The link to Ambrosia Software and the game's website is:
http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/evn/
Ron
In the game, you start out with a little ship (a shuttle craft in the game) and travel between different systems to buy/sell speculative cargos as well as run missions to make money. With money, you can buy bigger ships and equipment (defensive, offensive, maneuver related) for your ship. There are different factions including staid corporate types and plundering pirates.
The main view is a top-down/isometric view of the ships in space. There is very little downside/portside action (really conducted in a dialog).
Current downside is that the game is Mac only, but there is a Windows version coming out soon (the Windows version is currently in beta).
Escape Velocity (the original) and Escape Velocity Nova are both great games. The link to Ambrosia Software and the game's website is:
http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/evn/
Ron
flyingsquid
March 8th, 2003, 10:27 AM
I tried the Freelancer demo (160 mb, yikes!).
I was really impressed by the way the game handled space combat - both the effects and the interface are nicely done.
But it appears there's no freedom to roleplay or adventure planetside -- all interaction and dialogue at the various popts is pre-scripted, and while the player is allowed to choose his own path and missions, the game still feels linear.
And "Trent" is a really lame attempt at a Han-solo anti-hero -- if there's no way to shut him up, I don't think I could handle an entire game...
I think Microsoft is aiming this one at the younger crowd... but why they chose to target 10-year-olds is beyond me.
I was really impressed by the way the game handled space combat - both the effects and the interface are nicely done.
But it appears there's no freedom to roleplay or adventure planetside -- all interaction and dialogue at the various popts is pre-scripted, and while the player is allowed to choose his own path and missions, the game still feels linear.
And "Trent" is a really lame attempt at a Han-solo anti-hero -- if there's no way to shut him up, I don't think I could handle an entire game...
I think Microsoft is aiming this one at the younger crowd... but why they chose to target 10-year-olds is beyond me.
Elliot
March 8th, 2003, 04:25 PM
I always played Command and Conquer skirmish mode games as Striker type missions - not really traveller but I kind of think they give a good flavour as to how a striker game may work.
Loki
March 8th, 2003, 05:06 PM
To Isaac_1963: Yes, Paragon Software published 2 PC computer games for MegaTraveller. MegaTraveller 1: The Zhodani Conspiracy and MegaTraveller 2: Quest for the Ancients.
I, like many others here, played one or both years ago when they first came out. I had such fond memories for both games (and didn't want to go digging through my game storeroom) I purchased both just a few weeks ago from The Traveller Trader. Obviously the graphics are dated but they still have that Traveller feel. I can spend hours in #2 just creating character after character using the built-in game character generator. graemlins/file_21.gif
I was rummaging through my local game store yesterday and came across a couple of sets of GDW's metal miniatures for Traveller, The New Era. They were all set #5853, listed as TECHNOS. I now have a human scientist-type figure and a Hiver figure from each package (cost was $5.50 for each pair). Now I've got to break out the Hiver Sourcebook and find out what color to paint these creatures. Sometimes digging through those bubblepacks hanging on the wall of your local game shop can be a rewarding experience! :D
I, like many others here, played one or both years ago when they first came out. I had such fond memories for both games (and didn't want to go digging through my game storeroom) I purchased both just a few weeks ago from The Traveller Trader. Obviously the graphics are dated but they still have that Traveller feel. I can spend hours in #2 just creating character after character using the built-in game character generator. graemlins/file_21.gif
I was rummaging through my local game store yesterday and came across a couple of sets of GDW's metal miniatures for Traveller, The New Era. They were all set #5853, listed as TECHNOS. I now have a human scientist-type figure and a Hiver figure from each package (cost was $5.50 for each pair). Now I've got to break out the Hiver Sourcebook and find out what color to paint these creatures. Sometimes digging through those bubblepacks hanging on the wall of your local game shop can be a rewarding experience! :D
dnacowboy
April 14th, 2003, 03:39 PM
To check out something really ancient, see if you can find a copy of Space Rogue. At the time, 15 years ago..., I thought it was the greatest thing ever. Probably the first of the "fly around the galaxy, trade stuff, oh wait you also have a secret mission" sort of games. Interestingly enough it had an arcade style flight mode and a Newtonian style flight mode (allowing you to try interesting maneuvers with thrust and vectors.)
I also like the first Privateer (based in the Wing Commander universe), though the second one seemed way too lock step on following a plot.
I also like the first Privateer (based in the Wing Commander universe), though the second one seemed way too lock step on following a plot.
Alias
April 14th, 2003, 05:29 PM
Halo : A ring world built by a lost ancient specis, a power armoured soldier and a terrible weapon known as the Flood.
I always think of the Imperial Marines when I play Halo, Unyelding and remorseless. very cool game well worth completing. smile.gif
I always think of the Imperial Marines when I play Halo, Unyelding and remorseless. very cool game well worth completing. smile.gif
Ellros
April 14th, 2003, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by Isaac_1963:
I remember seeing two Traveller computer games for sale in late 1992 or early 1993. Anybody know anything about them? Wish I'd picked them up. (Come to think of it, I think they were MegaTraveller.)
If you do an Internet search, there are several sites you can download one or both of the Traveller games from.
I remember seeing two Traveller computer games for sale in late 1992 or early 1993. Anybody know anything about them? Wish I'd picked them up. (Come to think of it, I think they were MegaTraveller.)
If you do an Internet search, there are several sites you can download one or both of the Traveller games from.
Jame
April 15th, 2003, 10:47 AM
What were the titles of these games?
Keklas Rekobah
April 15th, 2003, 03:55 PM
I just snatched up MegaTraveller 1: The Zhodani Conspiracy and MegaTraveller 2: Quest for the Ancients at a local swap meet (flea market) for 5US$ each! In the ORIGINAL boxes!
As soon as my CD/DVD burner arrives, I'll put these and any other useful Traveller utilities on a more permanent medium.
Unless The-Powers-That-Be (Hello, Marc?) decide to do it themselves first...
As soon as my CD/DVD burner arrives, I'll put these and any other useful Traveller utilities on a more permanent medium.
Unless The-Powers-That-Be (Hello, Marc?) decide to do it themselves first...
Anton
April 17th, 2003, 12:30 PM
Both MegaTraveller games are available for download here: http://jtas.org/Software/download.html
They are now 'abandonware' and in the public domain, apparently.
I'm playing through the first one and finding out just how tough the MT ruleset was (max skills allowed = INT + EDU!). It's a reasonable game (excellent considering when it was published!) but definitely d/load the manual too :) The only really annoying things about it are it's hard to navigate in-system, and you really do need to check the UWP to see if an atmosphere is breathable before you leave the spaceport :)
Anton
They are now 'abandonware' and in the public domain, apparently.
I'm playing through the first one and finding out just how tough the MT ruleset was (max skills allowed = INT + EDU!). It's a reasonable game (excellent considering when it was published!) but definitely d/load the manual too :) The only really annoying things about it are it's hard to navigate in-system, and you really do need to check the UWP to see if an atmosphere is breathable before you leave the spaceport :)
Anton
Glee
April 27th, 2003, 02:53 PM
This reply is for Issac concerning the Megatraveller game for the computer.These games were sold in the early 90's and there were 2 of them. The first was the Zhodinian Conspiricy and the second was the Secrets of the Ancient's. I have not played the first, but have completed the second. The second contains a character generator that will allow you to develop either a human or Vargr character for the game. You then must collect 36 Coyns by visiting the various Ancient's sites, then you must visit the ancient's Grandfather learn the secret to save Rhylanor from destruction. A secondary quest is to find the culprit that caused the Ancient's Site to activate and destroy Rhylanor. The game formed the basis for my character development into an on-going Traveller campaign. Both of these games are available for download on the internet at www.freelancetraveller.com/infocenter/swlist/winprogs.html. (http://www.freelancetraveller.com/infocenter/swlist/winprogs.html.) The site also contains the manuals and a hint book for the games. You will need the manuals as the copyright protection keys off the manuals. The games are very interesting and are a good basis for understanding of the Traveller system. There is a lot of trading and interaction with npc's and some combat. Hopefully, you will be able to enjoy these games.
Sophiathegreen
May 2nd, 2003, 06:09 AM
I play MOO1, MOO2, and MOO3 which while not realy traveller are great 4X space empire games. I am sorrey for been abite off topic here.
bromdenlong
June 26th, 2003, 02:44 PM
Loki, Ellros, Anton, Glee...thanks! I just downloaded both games and I'm going to give them a spin.
jzeitlin
June 27th, 2003, 04:57 PM
I vaguely remember a set of games that in retrospect might have been Travelleresque - I wish I could find them again to confirm.
Brøderbund put out four games under the line title Galactic Saga - I recall three of the individual titles: Galactic Trader, Galactic Empire, and Tawala's Last Redoubt. I'd love to find them and try to play them again...
I think my father may actually have them; whether the disks are readable, even in a real, working Apple ][, is another question. Assuming that the disks are readable, does anyone know what I'd need to do to convert them to .DSK images for the AppleWin emulator?
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Brøderbund put out four games under the line title Galactic Saga - I recall three of the individual titles: Galactic Trader, Galactic Empire, and Tawala's Last Redoubt. I'd love to find them and try to play them again...
I think my father may actually have them; whether the disks are readable, even in a real, working Apple ][, is another question. Assuming that the disks are readable, does anyone know what I'd need to do to convert them to .DSK images for the AppleWin emulator?
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Emperor Valdamir
June 28th, 2003, 02:46 AM
The two MegaTraveller computer games by Paragon are available for download from the Freelance Traveller website at;
http://www.freelancetraveller.com/infocenter/swlist/winprogs.html
http://www.freelancetraveller.com/infocenter/swlist/winprogs.html
Emperor Valdamir
June 28th, 2003, 02:48 AM
Oops.. didn't read page two before posting, didn't realize others had already posted the link. Sorry! smile.gif
Hecateus
June 28th, 2003, 07:53 PM
Anyone tried this:
> Interstellar Trader 2 < (http://www.computergames.ro/download.php?optiune=show_download&did=942)
> Interstellar Trader 2 < (http://www.computergames.ro/download.php?optiune=show_download&did=942)
Jame
December 4th, 2003, 04:52 PM
Does anyone know where I could get a demo of any of the Master of Orion series?
And what about non-PC/Mac games, for (e.g.) Super NES? I vote the Metroid series in! (Though it's not quite Travelleresque, it has a cool heroine in a cool set of [advanced] battledress.)
And what about non-PC/Mac games, for (e.g.) Super NES? I vote the Metroid series in! (Though it's not quite Travelleresque, it has a cool heroine in a cool set of [advanced] battledress.)
theSea
December 4th, 2003, 05:17 PM
There's a demo of MOO2 out there somewhere but it's probably the old dos version. MOO2 windows re-write can be had in jewell case form for ~$10.00 -check amazon.
There does not seem to be a Moo3 demo.
If you're interested in this kind of game, I can recommend Space Empires IV (demo (http://www.malfador.com/se4dwngd.html)) and Galactic Civilizations (demo (http://download.com.com/3000-2119-10204231.html?tag=lst-0-1)). Both are a lot of fun.
--michael
There does not seem to be a Moo3 demo.
If you're interested in this kind of game, I can recommend Space Empires IV (demo (http://www.malfador.com/se4dwngd.html)) and Galactic Civilizations (demo (http://download.com.com/3000-2119-10204231.html?tag=lst-0-1)). Both are a lot of fun.
--michael
Jame
December 4th, 2003, 05:23 PM
Thanks, theSea!
cmdrx
December 4th, 2003, 08:28 PM
I know this is way ancient history, but anyone remember Elite? You had a small merchant ship and traded cargoes between planets, make money, upgrade your ship and go from 'Mostly Harmless' to 'Elite'. It was for those old 8 bit machines they had in the 1980's (C64, Apple, IBM, etc...)
Had a VERY Traveller feel, even if it was all ship combat and speculative trade. You could easily go 'ethically challenged', just look out for the cops!
I think they did a remake for the DOS PC in the early 90's Full collour graphics and everything.
You might (not sure) be able to find it somewhere.
Had a VERY Traveller feel, even if it was all ship combat and speculative trade. You could easily go 'ethically challenged', just look out for the cops!
I think they did a remake for the DOS PC in the early 90's Full collour graphics and everything.
You might (not sure) be able to find it somewhere.
clementk
December 5th, 2003, 02:09 AM
There is starlords http://moo3.quicksilver.com/game/starlords.html
evidently MOO before it was MOO.
Haven't downloaded this and it looks like you need a fileplanet id to get it.
Casey
evidently MOO before it was MOO.
Haven't downloaded this and it looks like you need a fileplanet id to get it.
Casey
vutpakdi
December 5th, 2003, 09:44 AM
Space Empires IV Gold is a great MoO like strategic space conquest game (and includes tactical combat). The Space Empires series had its roots in a computer version of Starfire (from Task Force Games).
Malfador Machinations (the producers of Space Empires IV) recently came out with a new game set in the Space Empires IV universe where players take the role of a ship captain. Sounds like there are missions, but players can also play other roles. I haven't played this game, but it certainly sounds interesting.
Look for both at the Malfador Machinations website (http://www.malfador.com/)
Ron
Malfador Machinations (the producers of Space Empires IV) recently came out with a new game set in the Space Empires IV universe where players take the role of a ship captain. Sounds like there are missions, but players can also play other roles. I haven't played this game, but it certainly sounds interesting.
Look for both at the Malfador Machinations website (http://www.malfador.com/)
Ron
clementk
December 5th, 2003, 01:28 PM
I think you're talking about Space Empires: Starfury (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/malfador/Starfury/1.htm)
demo (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/downloads/sfdemo.exe)
Also Interstellar Trader 2 (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/stormcloud/Trader%202/1.htm)
demo (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/downloads/trad2demo.exe)
Hate to say it, but Fading Suns: Noble Armada (http://www.noblearmada.com/main.asp) 's continued non-arrival is making games like the above look more tempting all the time.
Casey
demo (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/downloads/sfdemo.exe)
Also Interstellar Trader 2 (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/stormcloud/Trader%202/1.htm)
demo (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/downloads/trad2demo.exe)
Hate to say it, but Fading Suns: Noble Armada (http://www.noblearmada.com/main.asp) 's continued non-arrival is making games like the above look more tempting all the time.
Casey
Jame
December 7th, 2003, 04:04 PM
Are there any games that play out like G:T Star Mercs?
grendelttroll
December 8th, 2003, 12:51 AM
Another game that simulates a Starship cockpit is Vega Strike. It is a free game for multiple platforms at:
Vega Strike Main Page (http://vegastrike.sourceforge.net/)
Vega Strike Main Page (http://vegastrike.sourceforge.net/)
jzeitlin
December 8th, 2003, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by Isaac_1963:
I remember seeing two Traveller computer games for sale in late 1992 or early 1993. Anybody know anything about them? Wish I'd picked them up. (Come to think of it, I think they were MegaTraveller.)
Also, anyone know if the Trader software program is available anywhere? They are MegaTraveller, and are now available through the Freelance Traveller Computer Connection (http://www.freelancetraveller.com/infocenter/swlist/winprogs.html).
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I remember seeing two Traveller computer games for sale in late 1992 or early 1993. Anybody know anything about them? Wish I'd picked them up. (Come to think of it, I think they were MegaTraveller.)
Also, anyone know if the Trader software program is available anywhere? They are MegaTraveller, and are now available through the Freelance Traveller Computer Connection (http://www.freelancetraveller.com/infocenter/swlist/winprogs.html).
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Kevinyon
December 18th, 2003, 12:49 AM
The game Frontier: Elite II had a pretty good traveller feel. It is available as a shareware download, just plug Elite II in a search engine and you should be able to find it.
TJP
December 19th, 2003, 09:22 AM
I'm not sure if have mentioned this before on these boards, but one game that gave me a lot of ideas to use in Traveller, and a general atmospheric "feel" of things, is Independence War (or I-War). It's a space sim from 1998 (or so) where you pilot, as well as command, a corvette instead of a fighter. It's got Newtonian space flight, real near space star map and a great story. Even being an old game, it still holds the title Best Intro Cinematic. On the down side, it was fiendishly difficult. I only managed to complete it with the help of an invulnerability cheat (and even with it, some missions were nigh impossible!). I remember the first time I pulled the "drive-by shooting" maneuver, i.e. closing in with the target firing, then flipping over and firing as you face the target but still continue to move away (on your vector) - it was fantastic.
There's a sequel to I-War called "Edge of Chaos", it's good as well, but not as good as the original I-War. It's got more player freedom, but doesn't quite manage to conjure the same atmosphere as the original, IMHO.
Oh, and speaking of space sims, one needs to mention both Freespace games. Good fun, not that much Traveller in them, but good games both. (And to show how old I am, Elite for C-64, of course... plus X-Wing, my first PC game.)
Switching gears here. I just bought Halo (for PC) a few weeks back and, even though I haven't completed it yet, I must say that it's one of the best (if not *the* best) shooters I've played. So far I haven't come across a single dull "scene" yet and being somewhere in the mid parts of the game (near completing the "Assault on the Control Room") with many hours of game time behind me, that's pretty good. Everyone raves about the graphics (and yes, they're great) but the voice acting is also absolutely marvelous in Halo. It's easily the best voice acting I've come across in my 15+ years of computer gaming. The guy who did the Covenant Grunt voices deserves a special mention, I've had to hit Pause a few times as I was laughing so hard it spoiled my aim(!). As I said, I'm only in the middle parts of the game and it's story, but I can say the game really tells a story well - it's the storyline that really pushes the player forward. It is an intriguing and atmospheric story that's well paced. Too bad I know a few spoilers, big spoilers in fact.
So far, my favorite scene has been the beginning of "Silent Cartographer" as the two dropships fly low over the sea. You're looking out of the open passenger/cargo bay of one dropship, as the other zigzags behind. Then both land on a beach full of Covenant troops and drop you with the marines to fight them. A close second, is the first "snow assault" scene, where you first see Covenant "Ghosts" gliders.
While Halo is not 1:1 comparable to Traveller, I've gotten a lot of inspiration from it and a few good story/adventure ideas. The game's a classic, I'd recommend it to everyone (except those who absolutely hate shooters).
About MOO3: It was a major disappointment for me, mind-numbingly boring and "colorless" (atmosphere-wise, no player immersion whatsoever). I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, which is a shame as I really liked MOO2 and had high hopes for MOO3. Sadly MOO3 was a complete miss. If you want a 4X game, go for Galactic Civilations. Even if GAlCiv doesn't look (nor sound) like much, it's lot more solid game than MOO3. The scale is smaller though, so you won't be commanding fleets of hundreds of ships in GalCiv. I haven't Played Space Empires IV much (demo only), but what I've heard is that it shines in muktiplayer and sucks (more or less) on single player. The demo didn't impress me enough to buy it, so I really can't comment SE IV more than this.
There's a sequel to I-War called "Edge of Chaos", it's good as well, but not as good as the original I-War. It's got more player freedom, but doesn't quite manage to conjure the same atmosphere as the original, IMHO.
Oh, and speaking of space sims, one needs to mention both Freespace games. Good fun, not that much Traveller in them, but good games both. (And to show how old I am, Elite for C-64, of course... plus X-Wing, my first PC game.)
Switching gears here. I just bought Halo (for PC) a few weeks back and, even though I haven't completed it yet, I must say that it's one of the best (if not *the* best) shooters I've played. So far I haven't come across a single dull "scene" yet and being somewhere in the mid parts of the game (near completing the "Assault on the Control Room") with many hours of game time behind me, that's pretty good. Everyone raves about the graphics (and yes, they're great) but the voice acting is also absolutely marvelous in Halo. It's easily the best voice acting I've come across in my 15+ years of computer gaming. The guy who did the Covenant Grunt voices deserves a special mention, I've had to hit Pause a few times as I was laughing so hard it spoiled my aim(!). As I said, I'm only in the middle parts of the game and it's story, but I can say the game really tells a story well - it's the storyline that really pushes the player forward. It is an intriguing and atmospheric story that's well paced. Too bad I know a few spoilers, big spoilers in fact.
So far, my favorite scene has been the beginning of "Silent Cartographer" as the two dropships fly low over the sea. You're looking out of the open passenger/cargo bay of one dropship, as the other zigzags behind. Then both land on a beach full of Covenant troops and drop you with the marines to fight them. A close second, is the first "snow assault" scene, where you first see Covenant "Ghosts" gliders.
While Halo is not 1:1 comparable to Traveller, I've gotten a lot of inspiration from it and a few good story/adventure ideas. The game's a classic, I'd recommend it to everyone (except those who absolutely hate shooters).
About MOO3: It was a major disappointment for me, mind-numbingly boring and "colorless" (atmosphere-wise, no player immersion whatsoever). I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, which is a shame as I really liked MOO2 and had high hopes for MOO3. Sadly MOO3 was a complete miss. If you want a 4X game, go for Galactic Civilations. Even if GAlCiv doesn't look (nor sound) like much, it's lot more solid game than MOO3. The scale is smaller though, so you won't be commanding fleets of hundreds of ships in GalCiv. I haven't Played Space Empires IV much (demo only), but what I've heard is that it shines in muktiplayer and sucks (more or less) on single player. The demo didn't impress me enough to buy it, so I really can't comment SE IV more than this.
TJP
December 19th, 2003, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by Jame#1:
Are there any games that play out like G:T Star Mercs? Jame, you really need to try Halo. Trust me, if you got the PC horsepower to run it and you like sci-fi shooters, you won't be disappointed.
Unless you ment that you want a strategy game where you buy mercs, equip them and then fight a strategic battle. Then Halo's not your ticket.
Are there any games that play out like G:T Star Mercs? Jame, you really need to try Halo. Trust me, if you got the PC horsepower to run it and you like sci-fi shooters, you won't be disappointed.
Unless you ment that you want a strategy game where you buy mercs, equip them and then fight a strategic battle. Then Halo's not your ticket.
Andrew Boulton
December 19th, 2003, 09:45 AM
(And to show how old I am, Elite for C-64, of course Pah, I remember the original BBC Micro version (in fact, I think I've still got it on 5.25" floppy...)
Jame
December 20th, 2003, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by TJP:
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Are there any games that play out like G:T Star Mercs? Jame, you really need to try Halo. Trust me, if you got the PC horsepower to run it and you like sci-fi shooters, you won't be disappointed.
Unless you ment that you want a strategy game where you buy mercs, equip them and then fight a strategic battle. Then Halo's not your ticket. </font>[/QUOTE]Oh hoh hoh hoh, HALO, GURGLE!!! But :mad: redface.gif :mad: redface.gif graemlins/file_28.gif My computer is just a little too old fer it graemlins/file_28.gif graemlins/file_28.gif ... I was thinking along the lines of strategy, too.
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jame#1:
Are there any games that play out like G:T Star Mercs? Jame, you really need to try Halo. Trust me, if you got the PC horsepower to run it and you like sci-fi shooters, you won't be disappointed.
Unless you ment that you want a strategy game where you buy mercs, equip them and then fight a strategic battle. Then Halo's not your ticket. </font>[/QUOTE]Oh hoh hoh hoh, HALO, GURGLE!!! But :mad: redface.gif :mad: redface.gif graemlins/file_28.gif My computer is just a little too old fer it graemlins/file_28.gif graemlins/file_28.gif ... I was thinking along the lines of strategy, too.
Erik Boielle
December 20th, 2003, 11:50 PM
>>I'm not sure if have mentioned this before on these boards, but one game that gave me a lot of ideas to use in Traveller, and a general atmospheric "feel" of things, is Independence War (or I-War). It's a space sim from 1998 (or so) where you pilot, as well as command, a corvette instead of a fighter. It's got Newtonian space flight, real near space star map and a great story. Even being an old game, it still holds the title Best Intro Cinematic. On the down side, it was fiendishly difficult. I only managed to complete it with the help of an invulnerability cheat (and even with it, some missions were nigh impossible!). I remember the first time I pulled the "drive-by shooting" maneuver, i.e. closing in with the target firing, then flipping over and firing as you face the target but still continue to move away (on your vector) - it was fantastic.<<
Pah! I laugh at you feeble game playing skillz!
I got through that game without cheating!
Took me two years, several failed attempts and getting some hints from its message board, but still.
And I never did quite finish Defiance, the mission pack.
The most important thing was to use a joystick with a hat, then set that to thrusting up/down/left/right.
And bind the override thrust keys to two convenient buttons.
Then always go in to combat thrusting foward, left and up cause then the bad guys hit you much less. And you can circle strafe behind them and shoot them in the back where they have no shields.
And use of LDS. If you get badly damged, hit the LDS key in the hope you can just fly around like that until your damage repair guys fix the ship so you steer.
Using LDS you can also spread out the bad guys and take them on one or two at a time.
God I loved that game. There was a wonderful B5 mod for it, complete with cutscenes and some actually funny voice acting.
That made the original game look positively easy by comparison.
Pah! I laugh at you feeble game playing skillz!
I got through that game without cheating!
Took me two years, several failed attempts and getting some hints from its message board, but still.
And I never did quite finish Defiance, the mission pack.
The most important thing was to use a joystick with a hat, then set that to thrusting up/down/left/right.
And bind the override thrust keys to two convenient buttons.
Then always go in to combat thrusting foward, left and up cause then the bad guys hit you much less. And you can circle strafe behind them and shoot them in the back where they have no shields.
And use of LDS. If you get badly damged, hit the LDS key in the hope you can just fly around like that until your damage repair guys fix the ship so you steer.
Using LDS you can also spread out the bad guys and take them on one or two at a time.
God I loved that game. There was a wonderful B5 mod for it, complete with cutscenes and some actually funny voice acting.
That made the original game look positively easy by comparison.
TJP
December 21st, 2003, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by Erik Boielle:
Pah! I laugh at you feeble game playing skillz! Well, what can I say, I'm a lover not a fighter. :cool:
I commend your piloting skills. How in blazes did you manage to win missions like saving the president's ship from Indie attack? I had my hands full just trying to stay alive after the Indie fleet jumps in, let alone protect another ship. Dodging gazillion missiles and PBC shots sort of took all my time - and time was a luxury that mission did not have. IIRC, that was the mission that turned me to the dark side and I started using cheats.
BTW, did you ever play Warhead? It was an old Amiga space sim from the same guy who was behind Independence War, Glyn Williams. An excellent game, very much like I-War (story driven, vector flight, etc.) and also very difficult (but that one I completed without cheating!). It was the spiritual father of I-War. It had a marvellous soundtrack, making full use of Amiga's high quality (for it's time) stereo sound and one of the most memorable space sim scenes - first contact with a Berserker (try offering a hand of friendship to an Ancients' Warmachine). That game alone was enough reason to have an Amiga... smile.gif
In fact, Warhead was a big push towards hard(er) sci-fi in RPGs for me. Before that, I never gave much thought to how space flight might work or how space warfare would be. Star Wars was the way I'd been following until then, even in Traveller. Traveller's "hard space opera" approach had always intrigued me, but I mostly ran Star Wars-styled sci-fi campaigns then. Scientific realities were largely victims of technobabble (or ignorance). Nothing wrong with that, per se, space opera isn't that much about science after all (IMHO). But this had started to gnaw the suspension of disbelief in my imagination. Warhead opened my eyes to the possibilities of hard sci-fi. Hard SF was no longer a dull or stifling part of sci-fi, it was a road of possibilites. Truth is stronger than fiction. Amen. :D
Pah! I laugh at you feeble game playing skillz! Well, what can I say, I'm a lover not a fighter. :cool:
I commend your piloting skills. How in blazes did you manage to win missions like saving the president's ship from Indie attack? I had my hands full just trying to stay alive after the Indie fleet jumps in, let alone protect another ship. Dodging gazillion missiles and PBC shots sort of took all my time - and time was a luxury that mission did not have. IIRC, that was the mission that turned me to the dark side and I started using cheats.
BTW, did you ever play Warhead? It was an old Amiga space sim from the same guy who was behind Independence War, Glyn Williams. An excellent game, very much like I-War (story driven, vector flight, etc.) and also very difficult (but that one I completed without cheating!). It was the spiritual father of I-War. It had a marvellous soundtrack, making full use of Amiga's high quality (for it's time) stereo sound and one of the most memorable space sim scenes - first contact with a Berserker (try offering a hand of friendship to an Ancients' Warmachine). That game alone was enough reason to have an Amiga... smile.gif
In fact, Warhead was a big push towards hard(er) sci-fi in RPGs for me. Before that, I never gave much thought to how space flight might work or how space warfare would be. Star Wars was the way I'd been following until then, even in Traveller. Traveller's "hard space opera" approach had always intrigued me, but I mostly ran Star Wars-styled sci-fi campaigns then. Scientific realities were largely victims of technobabble (or ignorance). Nothing wrong with that, per se, space opera isn't that much about science after all (IMHO). But this had started to gnaw the suspension of disbelief in my imagination. Warhead opened my eyes to the possibilities of hard sci-fi. Hard SF was no longer a dull or stifling part of sci-fi, it was a road of possibilites. Truth is stronger than fiction. Amen. :D
kaladorn
December 22nd, 2003, 01:00 AM
Anyone who wants tri-orthographic views, turn based combat, an ACQ/snapshot/AHL like feel, and a chance to tangle with mindbenders, I can only recommend UFO , UFO:Terror from the Deep, UFO:Apocalypse, etc. The first one is still my favourite. Nothing like carefully preparing the squad, having Bob run out of time while priming a grenade in the middle, and then an enemy pop out and shoot him before he gets another activation.... drop grenade... BOOM!
Great fun.
And of course, if you want the feel of TL-7 merc teams, I love Ghost Recon, GR:Desert Siege, and want to get GR:Island Thunder. Lots of good mods out there for these too.
Great fun.
And of course, if you want the feel of TL-7 merc teams, I love Ghost Recon, GR:Desert Siege, and want to get GR:Island Thunder. Lots of good mods out there for these too.
Darium
January 10th, 2004, 08:41 PM
A friend of mine and a Traveller fan has created a online game inspired by traveller. Profiteer, its a browser based game , so no need to download anything. The website is: http://www.profiteer.ca/#
Jame
January 27th, 2004, 12:34 PM
Now, these aren't Travelleresque - hey, they're not even sci fi - but Spiderweb Software (http://www.spidweb.com) makes some neat-o (heh heh heh :D ) fantasy games. I recommend the "Avernum" series, the first "Geneforge," and "Nethergate" in no order whatsoever.
Irsan
February 2nd, 2004, 02:39 PM
I know this is just a topic dig up, but I think Freelancer is the closest I've ever been to playing a Traveller PC game (other than MegaTraveller 1 & 2, of course). I hope that someone would make a Traveller conversion of the game, or even better a Traveller game based on the same game engine! :D
For a merc game, the best I know is Jagged Alliance 2, not sci fi, but it has all the merc freedom (buying weapons, armor, ammo, and hiring more mercs). For a sci-fi First Person Shooter game, maybe Elite Force is closer to Traveller than say, Aliens vs Predator or Quake... tongue.gif
For a merc game, the best I know is Jagged Alliance 2, not sci fi, but it has all the merc freedom (buying weapons, armor, ammo, and hiring more mercs). For a sci-fi First Person Shooter game, maybe Elite Force is closer to Traveller than say, Aliens vs Predator or Quake... tongue.gif
Andrew Boulton
February 2nd, 2004, 03:00 PM
For a merc game, the best I know is Jagged Alliance 2 I love that game. One of my all-time faves.
DaveChase
February 2nd, 2004, 05:03 PM
Not set as a Traveller Game, but I like StarFlight for SEGA. I heard that it was a computer game too, just never seen a copy for PC.
Dave
Dave
mad13142000
February 6th, 2004, 08:15 PM
Have you guys NOT played Freelancer???
I bought it at Target for $20, and spent most of last month finishing the first plot line....Very good...Very Travelleresque.
I recommend highly
-MADDog
I bought it at Target for $20, and spent most of last month finishing the first plot line....Very good...Very Travelleresque.
I recommend highly
-MADDog
jatay3
February 24th, 2004, 10:35 PM
Taipan(I play it as "Far East Trader" because of a copyright dodge). An old computer game that has the player as amerchant in the Indian Ocean in the 1800's. Somewhat like "Far-trader".
jatay3
March 16th, 2004, 12:58 AM
Another I just got is Patrician III. It also is like Far-Trader but set in the Medieval Baltic
clementk
March 16th, 2004, 01:07 PM
Merchant Prince II (http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?name=Merchant+Prince+II)
by Holistic Design (the Fading Sungs etc. folk) and released by TalonSoft several years ago. The original game was also reissued updated as Machiavelli The Prince.
Casey
by Holistic Design (the Fading Sungs etc. folk) and released by TalonSoft several years ago. The original game was also reissued updated as Machiavelli The Prince.
Casey
Ran Targas
March 17th, 2004, 08:52 AM
Mr. Chase:
Starflight and Starflight II are still pretty cool little games and very Traveller-esque, down to building your crew, trading, adventuring on planets, and upgrading your ship.
There is even an attempt to build a Starflight III to continue the original storylines. Here's the link:
Starflight III (http://www.starflight3.net/)
There's also links at this site to download the original games. Don't know if they work on modern machines or not.
Starflight and Starflight II are still pretty cool little games and very Traveller-esque, down to building your crew, trading, adventuring on planets, and upgrading your ship.
There is even an attempt to build a Starflight III to continue the original storylines. Here's the link:
Starflight III (http://www.starflight3.net/)
There's also links at this site to download the original games. Don't know if they work on modern machines or not.
BetterThanLife
March 20th, 2004, 10:48 AM
Actually I saw them on the web. Abandonware. Available for download, free. Now I have to remember where I saw them.
Originally posted by Isaac_1963:
I remember seeing two Traveller computer games for sale in late 1992 or early 1993. Anybody know anything about them? Wish I'd picked them up. (Come to think of it, I think they were MegaTraveller.)
Also, anyone know if the Trader software program is available anywhere?
Originally posted by Isaac_1963:
I remember seeing two Traveller computer games for sale in late 1992 or early 1993. Anybody know anything about them? Wish I'd picked them up. (Come to think of it, I think they were MegaTraveller.)
Also, anyone know if the Trader software program is available anywhere?
clementk
March 20th, 2004, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by Bhoins:
Actually I saw them on the web. Abandonware. Available for download, free. Now I have to remember where I saw them. Megatraveller 1 (http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?gameid=697) Megatraveller 2 (http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?gameid=698)
or here (http://www.freelancetraveller.com/infocenter/swlist/winprogs.html)
Likely elsewhere as well.
Casey
Actually I saw them on the web. Abandonware. Available for download, free. Now I have to remember where I saw them. Megatraveller 1 (http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?gameid=697) Megatraveller 2 (http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?gameid=698)
or here (http://www.freelancetraveller.com/infocenter/swlist/winprogs.html)
Likely elsewhere as well.
Casey
Jame
July 6th, 2004, 07:31 PM
There was this game, "Darkseed," which came out about a decade ago. (I downloaded it, but it wouldn't go past the first screen.) So, does anyone know anything about it?
Golan2072
May 23rd, 2005, 09:13 AM
Frontier: Elite and Frontier: First Encounters have ben released as Shareware.
http://www.frontier.co.uk/
Go to Games, select the specific game you want and click on download. Praise Frontier Developments for their generousity!
The original Elite is legally available for download at http://www.iancgbell.clara.net/elite/
A fix for Frontier: First Encounters to enable it to run on Windows could be found here: http://jaj22.org.uk/jjffe/download.html
You could also order X2: The Threat from here: http://www.egosoft.com/shop/index_en.php
http://www.frontier.co.uk/
Go to Games, select the specific game you want and click on download. Praise Frontier Developments for their generousity!
The original Elite is legally available for download at http://www.iancgbell.clara.net/elite/
A fix for Frontier: First Encounters to enable it to run on Windows could be found here: http://jaj22.org.uk/jjffe/download.html
You could also order X2: The Threat from here: http://www.egosoft.com/shop/index_en.php
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