JAFARR
January 16th, 2005, 04:32 PM
How about a glossery of site shorthand for those of us who may not have all the canon materials refered to by this shorthand. I just found this site about Christmas and while I have been playing (and playing with) Traveller in several versions since about mid 1978, I sure don't reconigize all of the references. I have figured out several of the most comon like CT for Clasic Traveller and LBBx for Little Black Book # 1-8 (or the earliest rule sets). I also discovered a reference a set of rules that I never saw called F.F.& S. (Fire,Fusion & Steel if I remember correctly). A listing of the most common would be helpful to those of us who are relativly new to this site or who have found out about Traveller in it's many forms by discovering this site.
Here is my starter list:
CT - Classic Traveller: the origional version of the game.
LBB's - Little Black Book(s)# 1 - 8: the first rule books were # 1 - 3; so called because they were the size of a standard sheet of typing paper folded in half from top to bottom, and had a black cover. Each had 48 of these 1/2 sheet sized pages
#0: An Introduction to Traveller (added later)
#1: Charecters & Combat (origional 3 book set)
#2: Starships (origional 3 book set)
#3: Worlds and Adventures (origional 3 book set)
#4: Mercenary (expanded character generation for Army and Marine and upgraded combat rules)
#5: High Guard [also called HG] (expanded character generation for Navy characters and upgraded starship design rules
#6: Scouts (expanded character generation for scouts and upgraded world and star system generation rules)
#7: Merchant Prince (expanded character generation for Merchants and trade rules)
#8: Robots (robot design rules)
Then there are additional rules sets and or referee aids in the same size books, but with other colors
AM #1 - 8: Alien Modules details about different alien races (note 3 of these races are 100% human so these modules focused on the cultural differences between the cultures)
S #1 - 13: Supplements (2 Libary Data, 2 Sector data, 4 different types of pre-generated chacerters, 3 different ship related data, and 1 each animals and paperwork layouts
A #0 - 13 & D #1 - 8: Adventure /Double Adventure outlines
J #1 -24, BJ #1 - 4, C #25 - 34: a series of mimi-magazines of the same 1/2 page sized booklets. Started out as Journal, Best of Journal, and changed to Challenge
MT - Magatraveller: first major overhaul of the entire rule sets also a transformation to rule books with full sized pages Sets the stage for the breakup of the Imperium
MTIE - Imperial Encyclopedia (MT): Background info and libary data on the CT & MT universe Also details on equipment, combat, starhips, spacecraft, vehicles, and their operations. System data for the Spinward Marches
MTRC - Referee's Companion (MT): Combat, in system operations, technology data and how to make use of it, Alien races, and sector, subsector,and world mapping
MTSOM Vol 1 - Starship Operator's Manual (MT): just what the name says
MTFS - Fighting Ships (MT): details on military ships and how the Imperial Navy uses them
MTPM & MTRM - Player's Manual & Referee's Manual (MT): PM charecter generation and more combat/encounter/enteraction rules, RM background information for the rebellion, System generation, ship & vehicle design and ship combat rules
TNE - The New Era: Introduces Virus and the aftermath of the rebellion rules simplified from MT.
T4,T20,GT - later versions of Traveller with which I don't have much data to work from.
Please add those I have missed or correct my errors
Here is my starter list:
CT - Classic Traveller: the origional version of the game.
LBB's - Little Black Book(s)# 1 - 8: the first rule books were # 1 - 3; so called because they were the size of a standard sheet of typing paper folded in half from top to bottom, and had a black cover. Each had 48 of these 1/2 sheet sized pages
#0: An Introduction to Traveller (added later)
#1: Charecters & Combat (origional 3 book set)
#2: Starships (origional 3 book set)
#3: Worlds and Adventures (origional 3 book set)
#4: Mercenary (expanded character generation for Army and Marine and upgraded combat rules)
#5: High Guard [also called HG] (expanded character generation for Navy characters and upgraded starship design rules
#6: Scouts (expanded character generation for scouts and upgraded world and star system generation rules)
#7: Merchant Prince (expanded character generation for Merchants and trade rules)
#8: Robots (robot design rules)
Then there are additional rules sets and or referee aids in the same size books, but with other colors
AM #1 - 8: Alien Modules details about different alien races (note 3 of these races are 100% human so these modules focused on the cultural differences between the cultures)
S #1 - 13: Supplements (2 Libary Data, 2 Sector data, 4 different types of pre-generated chacerters, 3 different ship related data, and 1 each animals and paperwork layouts
A #0 - 13 & D #1 - 8: Adventure /Double Adventure outlines
J #1 -24, BJ #1 - 4, C #25 - 34: a series of mimi-magazines of the same 1/2 page sized booklets. Started out as Journal, Best of Journal, and changed to Challenge
MT - Magatraveller: first major overhaul of the entire rule sets also a transformation to rule books with full sized pages Sets the stage for the breakup of the Imperium
MTIE - Imperial Encyclopedia (MT): Background info and libary data on the CT & MT universe Also details on equipment, combat, starhips, spacecraft, vehicles, and their operations. System data for the Spinward Marches
MTRC - Referee's Companion (MT): Combat, in system operations, technology data and how to make use of it, Alien races, and sector, subsector,and world mapping
MTSOM Vol 1 - Starship Operator's Manual (MT): just what the name says
MTFS - Fighting Ships (MT): details on military ships and how the Imperial Navy uses them
MTPM & MTRM - Player's Manual & Referee's Manual (MT): PM charecter generation and more combat/encounter/enteraction rules, RM background information for the rebellion, System generation, ship & vehicle design and ship combat rules
TNE - The New Era: Introduces Virus and the aftermath of the rebellion rules simplified from MT.
T4,T20,GT - later versions of Traveller with which I don't have much data to work from.
Please add those I have missed or correct my errors
far-trader
January 17th, 2005, 02:13 AM
I think this deserves a bump and maybe even a sticky.
One resource that may be helpful in this is The Illustrated Traveller Bibliography (http://www.travellerbibliography.org/)
One resource that may be helpful in this is The Illustrated Traveller Bibliography (http://www.travellerbibliography.org/)
Andrew Boulton
January 17th, 2005, 08:12 AM
http://www.downport.com/traveller/tml/tml-faq.html#Q5.1-TLA has a few.
Elliot
January 17th, 2005, 04:17 PM
By the way what does 'lol' mean?
far-trader
January 17th, 2005, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by Elliot:
By the way what does 'lol' mean? You're pulling my leg right? Or not, it could happen, there's lots I don't know, so to answer the question it's shorthand for Laugh(ing) Out Loud, usually figuratively rather than literally. Then there's roflol (rolling on floor lol) and roflmao (rolling on floor laughing my ass off). And of course a whole ton more. Enjoy your expanded netcabulary :D
By the way what does 'lol' mean? You're pulling my leg right? Or not, it could happen, there's lots I don't know, so to answer the question it's shorthand for Laugh(ing) Out Loud, usually figuratively rather than literally. Then there's roflol (rolling on floor lol) and roflmao (rolling on floor laughing my ass off). And of course a whole ton more. Enjoy your expanded netcabulary :D
JAFARR
January 18th, 2005, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by Elliot:
By the way what does 'lol' mean? Well if you are a duplicate bridge player lol means "little old lady" - the kind who doesn't really get serious about competition, but still goes to the games and jinks the better players by nonchalantly making the one bid that ruins any chance of getting a good or even average result on that hand. Also called "getting fixed" on that hand. (In duplicate, everyone plays identical hands and gets scored on how well you played compared to the results everyone else achieved who was playing the same direction. The north - south pair who gets the highest score on a particular hand (also called a board)gets the top score.) Seeing duplicate bridge has been around a lot longer than the internet, I guess their definition of lol has to be considered as legit also.
By the way what does 'lol' mean? Well if you are a duplicate bridge player lol means "little old lady" - the kind who doesn't really get serious about competition, but still goes to the games and jinks the better players by nonchalantly making the one bid that ruins any chance of getting a good or even average result on that hand. Also called "getting fixed" on that hand. (In duplicate, everyone plays identical hands and gets scored on how well you played compared to the results everyone else achieved who was playing the same direction. The north - south pair who gets the highest score on a particular hand (also called a board)gets the top score.) Seeing duplicate bridge has been around a lot longer than the internet, I guess their definition of lol has to be considered as legit also.
aramis
January 18th, 2005, 10:38 PM
MTRSB = MT Rebellion Sourcebook
COACC = MT Close Orbit and Aerospace Combat Command
SSOM = MTSOM
FF&S = TNE's FF&S
FF&S1 = TNE's FF&S
FF&S2 = T4's FF&S
Andy: Bridge shorthand doesn't need be considered legit on the net outside of bridge boards...
which statement makes me think of Granny Stellar at the helm of her 996 Surplused Type S in 1107ish... which she bought in 1050.
COACC = MT Close Orbit and Aerospace Combat Command
SSOM = MTSOM
FF&S = TNE's FF&S
FF&S1 = TNE's FF&S
FF&S2 = T4's FF&S
Andy: Bridge shorthand doesn't need be considered legit on the net outside of bridge boards...
which statement makes me think of Granny Stellar at the helm of her 996 Surplused Type S in 1107ish... which she bought in 1050.
kaladorn
January 19th, 2005, 01:16 PM
MTFS - This suppliment (Fighting Ships of the Shattered Imperium) is also frequently jokingly referred to as "Shattered Ships of the Fighting Imperium" due to its singificant problems with many of the designs.
And Journal of the Traveller's Aide Society is also often abbreviated JTAS.
GT - Gurps Traveller
GT:xxxx - A supplement for GT
Examples:
GT:N (Nobles)
GT:BTC (Behind the Claw - the Marches, essentially)
GT:FT (Far Trader - Supplement 7 a la Gurps)
GT:FI (First In - Supplement 6 a la Gurps)
GT:GF (Ground Forces - Supplement 5 a la Gurps)
Some other useful shorthands:
"Cogs and Dogs" - DGP's Vilani and Vargr supplement (redone Alien modules for MT)
"Cats and Rats" - DGP's Aslan and Solomani supplement (redone Alien modules for MT)
And Journal of the Traveller's Aide Society is also often abbreviated JTAS.
GT - Gurps Traveller
GT:xxxx - A supplement for GT
Examples:
GT:N (Nobles)
GT:BTC (Behind the Claw - the Marches, essentially)
GT:FT (Far Trader - Supplement 7 a la Gurps)
GT:FI (First In - Supplement 6 a la Gurps)
GT:GF (Ground Forces - Supplement 5 a la Gurps)
Some other useful shorthands:
"Cogs and Dogs" - DGP's Vilani and Vargr supplement (redone Alien modules for MT)
"Cats and Rats" - DGP's Aslan and Solomani supplement (redone Alien modules for MT)
Shadowdancer
January 20th, 2005, 03:07 AM
OTU = Official Traveller Universe. The offical game setting.
MTU = My Traveller Universe. Your home campaign setting, if it differs from the OTU.
AotI = Atlas of the Imperium. A map book of all the sectors within the Imperium, showing where star systems are located, the starport rating, gas giants and bases present, names of large population worlds and other information.
MTU = My Traveller Universe. Your home campaign setting, if it differs from the OTU.
AotI = Atlas of the Imperium. A map book of all the sectors within the Imperium, showing where star systems are located, the starport rating, gas giants and bases present, names of large population worlds and other information.
Shadowdancer
January 20th, 2005, 03:08 AM
Originally posted by Elliot:
By the way what does 'lol' mean? It's represented by this smilie: graemlins/file_21.gif
By the way what does 'lol' mean? It's represented by this smilie: graemlins/file_21.gif
Chuck Anumia
February 4th, 2005, 04:06 PM
And lest we forget
IMHO= In My Humble Opinion.
TPTB= The Powers That Be.
BTW= By The Way.
YTU= Your Traveller Universe.
TTFN= Ta Ta For Now.
And my personal favorite K= OK graemlins/toast.gif graemlins/file_23.gif
IMHO= In My Humble Opinion.
TPTB= The Powers That Be.
BTW= By The Way.
YTU= Your Traveller Universe.
TTFN= Ta Ta For Now.
And my personal favorite K= OK graemlins/toast.gif graemlins/file_23.gif
Chuck Anumia
February 7th, 2005, 03:55 PM
Oh Yeah, also IMO= In My Opinion.
kafka47
February 7th, 2005, 04:59 PM
Here's one that stumps me: heh
clementk
February 7th, 2005, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by kafka47:
Here's one that stumps me: heh Heh that's not shorthand. That's an onomatopoeia. For me at least it's like a short laugh. Not quite LOL and definately not LMAO but still something was amusing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heh
Casey just looking for One Divine Hammer
Here's one that stumps me: heh Heh that's not shorthand. That's an onomatopoeia. For me at least it's like a short laugh. Not quite LOL and definately not LMAO but still something was amusing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heh
Casey just looking for One Divine Hammer
Chuck Anumia
February 8th, 2005, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by Casey:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by kafka47:
Here's one that stumps me: heh Heh that's not shorthand. That's an onomatopoeia. For me at least it's like a short laugh. Not quite LOL and definately not LMAO but still something was amusing.
</font>[/QUOTE]I believe I heard this (heh) used in the Star Wars movie "Return of the Jedi"
The little bugger sitting on Jabba the Hutts tail uses this statment when he gets zapped by R2D2.
I also use this as a pair (heh,heh) sort of like saying "it is not hilarious but I'm getting away with something or am about to do something sneaky".
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by kafka47:
Here's one that stumps me: heh Heh that's not shorthand. That's an onomatopoeia. For me at least it's like a short laugh. Not quite LOL and definately not LMAO but still something was amusing.
</font>[/QUOTE]I believe I heard this (heh) used in the Star Wars movie "Return of the Jedi"
The little bugger sitting on Jabba the Hutts tail uses this statment when he gets zapped by R2D2.
I also use this as a pair (heh,heh) sort of like saying "it is not hilarious but I'm getting away with something or am about to do something sneaky".
Chuck Anumia
February 9th, 2005, 05:42 PM
And then there is
FTR= For The Record.
MTCW= My Two Cents Worth
IMHU= In My Home Universe
And
FTA= Fun Travel and Adventure
FTR= For The Record.
MTCW= My Two Cents Worth
IMHU= In My Home Universe
And
FTA= Fun Travel and Adventure
far-trader
February 15th, 2005, 09:41 PM
And here's another in the general category you might come across:
IANAL
No, it's not something to do with forbidden (in some jurisdictions at least) acts. It's a statement that he poster is not speaking as an authority on legal matters. It stands for "I am not a lawyer" and there are a couple close variations iirc.
IANAL
No, it's not something to do with forbidden (in some jurisdictions at least) acts. It's a statement that he poster is not speaking as an authority on legal matters. It stands for "I am not a lawyer" and there are a couple close variations iirc.
kaladorn
February 15th, 2005, 09:45 PM
Of course, there are offshoots of IANAL:
IANAGD - I am not a Game Designer
IANAA - I am not an Ancient
IAAL - I am a lawyer
IANAZS - I am not a Zhodani Spy
etc.
IANAGD - I am not a Game Designer
IANAA - I am not an Ancient
IAAL - I am a lawyer
IANAZS - I am not a Zhodani Spy
etc.
BeRKA
February 16th, 2005, 01:00 AM
IAAZS graemlins/file_22.gif
Jame
February 16th, 2005, 08:28 AM
Originally posted by BeRKA:
IAAZS graemlins/file_22.gif Oh good, we got enough for a team then... graemlins/file_23.gif
IAAZS graemlins/file_22.gif Oh good, we got enough for a team then... graemlins/file_23.gif
kaladorn
February 16th, 2005, 11:55 AM
IAINI, so I've got you both down on the 'Watch List'.
Chuck Anumia
February 16th, 2005, 01:24 PM
IANAA Unless you talk to my kids (MY GRANDKIDS DON'T KNOW BETTER YET) :D ;)
IJWS= I Just Write Stuff graemlins/file_23.gif
IJWS= I Just Write Stuff graemlins/file_23.gif
Theo D Lite
February 28th, 2005, 03:55 PM
I suppose we can always add:
YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary, used to indicate that just because it works for me here it might not be the same or work at all for you there.
WTF - What the . . . ., well I'm sure you can chose the next word to suit your own sensibilities
ISTR - I Seem To Recall/Remember
IIRC - If I Remember Correctly (sorry if this is a repeat)
One that's probably not netiquette but will be known by fans of Ringworld:
TANJ - There Ain't No Justice
YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary, used to indicate that just because it works for me here it might not be the same or work at all for you there.
WTF - What the . . . ., well I'm sure you can chose the next word to suit your own sensibilities
ISTR - I Seem To Recall/Remember
IIRC - If I Remember Correctly (sorry if this is a repeat)
One that's probably not netiquette but will be known by fans of Ringworld:
TANJ - There Ain't No Justice
JAFARR
March 1st, 2005, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by Theo D Lite:
I suppose we can always add:
YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary, used to indicate that just because it works for me here it might not be the same or work at all for you there.
WTF - What the . . . ., well I'm sure you can chose the next word to suit your own sensibilities
ISTR - I Seem To Recall/Remember
IIRC - If I Remember Correctly (sorry if this is a repeat)
One that's probably not netiquette but will be known by fans of Ringworld:
TANJ - There Ain't No Justice Not just "Ringworld" a lot of Niven's books have it.
TANSTAAFM
There ain't no such thing as a free meal!
I suppose we can always add:
YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary, used to indicate that just because it works for me here it might not be the same or work at all for you there.
WTF - What the . . . ., well I'm sure you can chose the next word to suit your own sensibilities
ISTR - I Seem To Recall/Remember
IIRC - If I Remember Correctly (sorry if this is a repeat)
One that's probably not netiquette but will be known by fans of Ringworld:
TANJ - There Ain't No Justice Not just "Ringworld" a lot of Niven's books have it.
TANSTAAFM
There ain't no such thing as a free meal!
vegascat
March 2nd, 2005, 05:04 AM
IIRC that was TANSTAAFL - There ain't no such thing as a free Lunch.
Does anyone remember Heinlien using it first?
Does anyone remember Heinlien using it first?
Piper
March 2nd, 2005, 06:01 AM
Originally posted by vegascat:
IIRC that was TANSTAAFL - There ain't no such thing as a free Lunch.
Does anyone remember Heinlien using it first? "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress", IIRC ;)
IIRC that was TANSTAAFL - There ain't no such thing as a free Lunch.
Does anyone remember Heinlien using it first? "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress", IIRC ;)
vegascat
March 2nd, 2005, 08:26 AM
I will have to check my library for publish dates.
Andrew Boulton
March 2nd, 2005, 11:05 AM
And as every rocket scientist knows, there ain't no such thing as a free launch...
Chuck Anumia
March 2nd, 2005, 03:55 PM
ZSU=Zhodani Spies United (Local 222)
clementk
March 2nd, 2005, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by BeRKA:
IAAZS graemlins/file_22.gif IAAHS
<eyestalk wiggle>
IANAHS
<waves blue soccer ball>
Casey who according to the Traveller test thingie is a Hiver posing as a Zhodani... <innocent look> tongue.gif
IAAZS graemlins/file_22.gif IAAHS
<eyestalk wiggle>
IANAHS
<waves blue soccer ball>
Casey who according to the Traveller test thingie is a Hiver posing as a Zhodani... <innocent look> tongue.gif
Chuck Anumia
March 3rd, 2005, 11:05 AM
WAG= Wild A@@ Guess
:D =Happy to not be a spy (OR HAPPY TO NOT HAVE BEEN FOUND OUT YET)
:D =Happy to not be a spy (OR HAPPY TO NOT HAVE BEEN FOUND OUT YET)
Chuck Anumia
March 4th, 2005, 01:12 PM
HBTU= Home Brew Traveller Universe
JAFARR
March 5th, 2005, 01:27 AM
Originally posted by cweiskircher:
WAG= Wild A@@ Guess
IIRC, That one has several variations.
FOG = Flat Out Guess
FLAG = (can't remember)
and some companions as well
AM = Almost Magic
FM = Freaking Magic (That's the polite translation)
WAG= Wild A@@ Guess
IIRC, That one has several variations.
FOG = Flat Out Guess
FLAG = (can't remember)
and some companions as well
AM = Almost Magic
FM = Freaking Magic (That's the polite translation)
Chuck Anumia
March 14th, 2005, 03:46 PM
PBP=Play by Play
PBM=Play By Mail
PBE=Play By Emial
YAW=You're A What?
WAY=Who Are You?
graemlins/file_23.gif
PBM=Play By Mail
PBE=Play By Emial
YAW=You're A What?
WAY=Who Are You?
graemlins/file_23.gif
Chuck Anumia
April 21st, 2005, 10:35 AM
IIRC= If I remember Correctly?
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